Bengals at Chargers (-1.5) Pre Game Discussion (Wk 11)

[Velo]

could you be a gracious dad and adopt hurst and whip his ass into being a player and not a waste of a roster spot?

No can do, sir.

[dmac_bolt]

could you be a gracious dad and adopt hurst and whip his ass into being a player and not a waste of a roster spot?

Ya know, Velo - he’s onto something here. You have a proven track record, you have done a fine job bringing the Thrill to Will. Now you need to get to work to lift Hurst up from Worst.

you got room for one more at the table, and you’re able, right?

(hat tip to Topper)

[jubei]

Ya know, Velo - he’s onto something here. You have a proven track record, you have done a fine job bringing the Thrill to Will. Now you need to get to work to lift Hurst up from Worst.

you got room for one more at the table, and you’re able, right?

(hat tip to Topper)

I dunno dmac...that was some awesome vernacular you had going there!

[Riverwalk]

No one thinks this is a easy win. But I'm getting the impression you think Burrow is a tier above Herbert otherwise why not give the team a fighting chance. We've beaten Burrow and Chase before and that was with a bad HC and terrible defense.

Your impression is a made up projection by you. I didn’t compare Herbert to Burrows.

[Velo]

Ya know, Velo - he’s onto something here. You have a proven track record, you have done a fine job bringing the Thrill to Will. Now you need to get to work to lift Hurst up from Worst.

you got room for one more at the table, and you’re able, right?

(hat tip to Topper)

Can't do it. I had a good vibe when the Dissly signing was announced. I knew he was going to be a good fit for what Harbaugh was going to build. Plus, he's born and raised in Bozeman, MT, kind of my 2nd home.

I don't have those vibes for Hurst. I never understood the signing. Hortiz was part of the team that made Hurst a 1st round draft pick in Balt, which was really ill-advised.

This is my one criticism of Hortiz, he tends to be loyal to guys he had a hand in drafting at Balt hoping they will workout in LA. Bozeman and Hurst both mistake signings.

[AKFlyFisher]

No one thinks this is a easy win. But I'm getting the impression you think Burrow is a tier above Herbert otherwise why not give the team a fighting chance. We've beaten Burrow and Chase before and that was with a bad HC and terrible defense.

That is because Burrow is a vastly superior QB to Herbert -- and that comes from both a statistical analysis and how the two are perceived by others in the NFL. I mean, it can be as simple as saying this: Burrow is top 3 in QBR, and Herbert is floating (because he goes up and down) at 11 or so. Herbert is probably a top 10ish QB in the NFL. Burrow is basically a top 3 QB. Saying that, Herbert is an athletic freak and smart, but he does not have Burrow's acumen or his ability. Injuries and availability are the only issue with Burrow. This is me being unbiased too -- know that I like Herbert a lot and think the Chargers are very luck to have him.

Regardless, for the Chargers to win, they are going to want to limit the number of opportunities that Burrow gets. The Chargers need to bleed/burn clock and need to score TDs.

[sonorajim]

If the Giants or 49ers were playing this well on defense no one would be saying Bengals will blow us out. Just goes to show engrained peoples belief about 'Chargering' is. Take a look at Bengals forums they think they'll drop a 40 burger on us. So much disrespect smh

Pft had a tweet out that if we hold the Bengals to 20 or less it'll be a feat not seen since the 1990 Giants.

Cincy scored 10 vs NE, 17 vs NYG and 17 vs Phi. We're actually a more complete D than they were. Those who imagine Cincy winning see Burrow torching our D and Herbert having no chance of keeping up. That ain't happening.

[Fouts2herbert]

They've made it so blatantly obvious this season. Sorry, but if NFL scripts this kc team to an undefeated season and a 3 peat, I'm done watching. NFL is already the WWE of sports, this would take it to a whole new level of boring.

Anything to keep the new NFL "fans" /swifties happy I suppose...

the NFL needs to study the history of professional sports in the USA…the original NFL went out of business due to over doing the manipulation of game outcomes for purposes of gambling…

[Fouts2herbert]

That is because Burrow is a vastly superior QB to Herbert -- and that comes from both a statistical analysis and how the two are perceived by others in the NFL. I mean, it can be as simple as saying this: Burrow is top 3 in QBR, and Herbert is floating (because he goes up and down) at 11 or so. Herbert is probably a top 10ish QB in the NFL. Burrow is basically a top 3 QB. Saying that, Herbert is an athletic freak and smart, but he does not have Burrow's acumen or his ability. Injuries and availability are the only issue with Burrow. This is me being unbiased too -- know that I like Herbert a lot and think the Chargers are very luck to have him.

Regardless, for the Chargers to win, they are going to want to limit the number of opportunities that Burrow gets. The Chargers need to bleed/burn clock and need to score TDs.

Both are fantastic players that bring a few different things to the table…I would never say either is vastly superior to the other…I emphatically disagree with that statement…

[sonorajim]

Chase is really good and will pound weak Ds. Over 100 yds twice vs Bal's #32 pass D. once vs Wash #10. But that's it for huge games this year. He's good, he's consistent most days but not incredible.
Should be fun to watch..

[jamrock]

Both are fantastic players that bring a few different things to the table…I would never say either is vastly superior to the other…I emphatically disagree with that statement…

Vastly superior? Nobody in their right mind is saying that. If the draft happened again it's a toss up who goes first. Even with MW and Keenan healthy, Herbert has never had the array of weapons or coaching that Burrow has had and still doesn't. Add to that Burrow's fragility and it's a toss up. Herbert is playing some of the best ball of his career right now. Stats may not show it but that's a fool's game. We can revisit Sunday night.

[sonorajim]

That is because Burrow is a vastly superior QB to Herbert -- and that comes from both a statistical analysis and how the two are perceived by others in the NFL. I mean, it can be as simple as saying this: Burrow is top 3 in QBR, and Herbert is floating (because he goes up and down) at 11 or so. Herbert is probably a top 10ish QB in the NFL. Burrow is basically a top 3 QB. Saying that, Herbert is an athletic freak and smart, but he does not have Burrow's acumen or his ability. Injuries and availability are the only issue with Burrow. This is me being unbiased too -- know that I like Herbert a lot and think the Chargers are very luck to have him.

Regardless, for the Chargers to win, they are going to want to limit the number of opportunities that Burrow gets. The Chargers need to bleed/burn clock and need to score TDs.

Cincy #12 offense vs LAC #1 defense.
Hold Cincy to 20 or less, score the 26 Cincy allows on avg. no big deal.