Bengals at Chargers (-1.5) Pre Game Discussion (Wk 11)

[gzubeck]

I don't think the winner of this game determines who is the better QB. I do think Burrow is vastly superior to Herbert. It is significant. They are not neck and neck. Herbert is at least a few tiers below Burrow. Burrow is elite at reading defenses, manipulating defenses, and layered throws. Herbert is not elite -- but just good in those areas. If there was a redraft, Burrow goes first still, and then Herbert is the 2nd QB taken.

put the crack pipe down....each has their own intangibles and the intangibles i admire most are in herbert's favor.

[Bolt-O]

Khalil Mack said he tweaked both groins in Week 9 against Cleveland Browns and then tweaked the right one again on Sunday against the Titans. Said he’s never felt an injury like this before but he’s planning to play Sunday.

[AKFlyFisher]

Mack is a warrior. Enough said.

[jamrock]

Only played 4 snaps against the titans.

[ChargingBolts]

Don't faintly agree with this. Herbert has put up monster numbers with an inferior group of skill players and coaching his entire career vs what Burrow has had. I think Burrow is a very good QB, as is Herbert. I'm not convinced that if you let teams draft over that everyone would pick Burrow first.

If Burrow was vastly superior and it's not even close AK how come the player breaking and setting all first 5 year passing records isn't Burrow? 🤔

Might want to try a retake, no way you're naming 10 QBs better 3a & 3b is closer than 3 vs 11

[Fouts2herbert]

I just read that Hendricks is leading the NFL in sacks, it's ridiculous that New Orleans let him walk, you can thank their bizarre cap management for that one...

[ChargersPowderBlue]

the intangibles i admire most are in herbert's favor.

The one who says he will make you harder to break?

[northerner]

The one who says he will make you harder to break?

the guy throwing the ball.

[Bolt4Knob]

I just read that Hendricks is leading the NFL in sacks, it's ridiculous that New Orleans let him walk, you can thank their bizarre cap management for that one...

Saints kept older players like Cam Jordan, Demario Davis, Hill, Jenkins

NFL is a younger players league and Loomis is an overrated GM.

As for Sunday, lets hope our OTs can stop Hendrickson from getting to Herbert

[jubei]

put the crack pipe down....each has their own intangibles and the intangibles i admire most are in herbert's favor.

"vastly superior" must mean something along the lines of "neck and neck". remember that Herbert is now on his, what, FOURTH OC in his 5 years and almost as many HCs? Justin's had bottom-of-the-barrel defenses his WHOLE career until this year. there's a stat that showed he basically had to score at least 27 points to win something like 80% of his wins...that is ATROCIOUS D!

[Velo]

I don't think the winner of this game determines who is the better QB. I do think Burrow is vastly superior to Herbert. It is significant. They are not neck and neck. Herbert is at least a few tiers below Burrow. Burrow is elite at reading defenses, manipulating defenses, and layered throws. Herbert is not elite -- but just good in those areas. If there was a redraft, Burrow goes first still, and then Herbert is the 2nd QB taken.

I'm embarrassed for you. Herbert and Burrow have faced each other one time. Dec 2021. Herbert threw for 317, 3 TD, 1 INT, 118.4 rating. "vastly superior" Burrow: 300 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, 70.8 rating.

[Dark Helmet]

"vastly superior" must mean something along the lines of "neck and neck". remember that Herbert is now on his, what, FOURTH OC in his 5 years and almost as many HCs? Justin's had bottom-of-the-barrel defenses his WHOLE career until this year. there's a stat that showed he basically had to score at least 27 points to win something like 80% of his wins...that is ATROCIOUS D!

Not to mention, he's never had receivers even close to the level of Chase & Higgins to throw to.

I love Herbert, I think he has all the tools and football IQ to be one of the best ever. And in my opinion, he's already top 5. My only real gripe is that I would like to see him get rid of the ball quicker. Sometimes it seems like he holds onto it too long trying to make something happen. But, I do realize the majority of our receiving core seems to have issues getting open consistently, coupled with the troubles we have at times in pass pro. Still, it's an area I'd like to see him improve upon.