Chargers at Chiefs (-4.5) Pre Game Discussion (Wk 14)

[colorado]

When was the last time we beat KC? Seems like forever. One victory against KC would shock the shit out of them...

[charger1_sj]

whoa, hey now. I didn't say they should go run it 40 times or anything. I just noted the stat you posted was misleading because almost 50% of those "runs" were not the two RBs you were talking about running. over 25% of those "runs" were sacks on Herbie - which isnt a run play at all.

Its normal to have some runs longer and some shorter. I don't know the NFL team that pops a guaranteed 5 yards every run without fail, I have never seen such a team in my 50+ years watching NFL. If you average 5+, you're doing very good, that typically is top 5 or better in the league. There are 4 teams in the league this year > 5.0 ypc. 3 of those are at 5.1.

I have no idea why they only ran their RBs 10 times the entire game last week but thats probably also not the right number. I'd say not 40, not 10, somewhere in the middle. and I don't run them all up the A gap looking for Chris Smith either cuz that dude is really good.

KC games are never a cake walk for any other team. hence 11-1. we have to play better than we played last week, we need to get on them and after them and ball that shit out. LFG!

I didn't say we need to get 5 yards on every carry. I listed the runs and 7/10 went for 3 yards or less. The three runs of 16, 9 and 12 is what got the average to over
5 ypc. That's not very consistent when there were 0 runs of 4-5 yards. We didn't have more run plays because the penalties got us behind the chains forcing us to
throw, most of which were incomplete, which meant we had to throw again on the next down.

Yes it's totally normal to have some short and long runs. But if 70% of your runs go for less than 3 yards, that's not good. Plus there were 2 more runs that did
not involve Herbert, Vidal, or Edwards. Those went for 2 or less yards. So it's actually 75% of runs that went for 3 yards or less. Those do not include the sacks.
Not a good number.

[dmac_bolt]

I didn't say we need to get 5 yards on every carry. I listed the runs and 7/10 went for 3 yards or less. The three runs of 16, 9 and 12 is what got the average to over
5 ypc. That's not very consistent when there were 0 runs of 4-5 yards. We didn't have more run plays because the penalties got us behind the chains forcing us to
throw, most of which were incomplete, which meant we had to throw again on the next down.

Yes it's totally normal to have some short and long runs. But if 70% of your runs go for less than 3 yards, that's not good. Plus there were 2 more runs that did
not involve Herbert, Vidal, or Edwards. Those went for 2 or less yards. So it's actually 75% of runs that went for 3 yards or less. Those do not include the sacks.
Not a good number.

no, its not super consistent. but nothing about last week's offense was consistent in any way. Justin was 16/23 for 147 yards, we were 3/11 on 3rd down, 0/1 on 4th, we only had 10 first downs to their 24 and only ran 46 plays to their 77. Why single out the two RBs who combined for >5 ypc for a special discussion? 5 ypc is a good average. Justin only averaged 6.4 ypa passing it.

Hassam is only given the ball in a 3rd or 4th and 1 dive play - he didn't get it this time agree. it hurt. So no more 3rd and 1 plays? Because his overall success rate for the year has been good.
DD's jet sweeps suck every game, they seriously do. Greg can shit-can that play call as far as I'm concerned, since he never taught the team how to execute it.

[charger1_sj]

no, its not super consistent. but nothing about last week's offense was consistent in any way. Justin was 16/23 for 147 yards, we were 3/11 on 3rd down, 0/1 on 4th, we only had 10 first downs to their 24 and only ran 46 plays to their 77. Why single out the two RBs who combined for >5 ypc for a special discussion? 5 ypc is a good average. Justin only averaged 6.4 ypa passing it.

Hassam is only given the ball in a 3rd or 4th and 1 dive play - he didn't get it this time agree. it hurt. So no more 3rd and 1 plays? Because his overall success rate for the year has been good.
DD's jet sweeps suck every game, they seriously do. Greg can shit-can that play call as far as I'm concerned, since he never taught the team how to execute it.

Well I didn't single out the two RBs, at least that was not the intention. By saying that they averaged 5.2 ypc is quite deceiving for several reasons.

1. The two only ran for 10 attempts.
2. 70% of the attempts went for less than 3 yards.

Yes our short down dive plays suck. But that was brought up in the context that we did not have a good day running the football.

[Velo]

QJ last 4 games: 19 targets 6 catches 84 yds

@ ATL 2/4 rec/targets 12 yds
v Balt 0/5 rec/targets 0 yds
v Cinn 2/8 rec/targets 48 yds
v Tenn 2/2 rec/targets 24 yds

McConkey @ ATL: 12 targets 9 catches 117 yds

[sonorajim]

Well I didn't single out the two RBs, at least that was not the intention. By saying that they averaged 5.2 ypc is quite deceiving for several reasons.

1. The two only ran for 10 attempts.
2. 70% of the attempts went for less than 3 yards.

Yes our short down dive plays suck. But that was brought up in the context that we did not have a good day running the football.

Fact. We were somewhat handicapped by the fact that our RB1 - RB2 guys got a combined 10 carries. The yards happen later in the game normally. We made to normal attempt at ground yards.
I'm not complaining though. We won and winning is fun.

[captaind]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chargers/comments/1h7n9q6/nguyen_justin_herbert_throwing_to_khalil_mack_not/?share_id=jWICPQK3GPB4YS7Yx5WhZ&utm_content=1&utm_ medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source= share&utm_term=4

I might lose my shit if Mack scores a TD.

Looks like he has good hands to me. Put him in the regular rotation. What do we have to lose?

[charger1_sj]

Fact. We were somewhat handicapped by the fact that our RB1 - RB2 guys got a combined 10 carries. The yards happen later in the game normally. We made to normal attempt at ground yards.
I'm not complaining though. We won and winning is fun.

Sorry but we did not make normal attempts at running the football, particularly in the 2nd half when we attempted 4 or 5 carries (not including the Herbert kneel down).
I already gave the reason why that was the case. It was not a good day for the offense, period. Individually Ladd had a great first half, that was about it. Oh and Dicker
is earning his payday.

I am ecstatic that we won the game. Thanks to 4 interceptions, one a pick 6. But look Atlanta controlled the clock keeping Herbert on the sidelines. When we did
touch the football there were penalties, sacks and incompletions. Really a 2nd half to forget if you're the offense.

[charger1993]

Sorry but we did not make normal attempts at running the football, particularly in the 2nd half when we attempted 4 or 5 carries (not including the Herbert kneel down).
I already gave the reason why that was the case. It was not a good day for the offense, period. Individually Ladd had a great first half, that was about it. Oh and Dicker
is earning his payday.

I am ecstatic that we won the game. Thanks to 4 interceptions, one a pick 6. But look Atlanta controlled the clock keeping Herbert on the sidelines. When we did
touch the football there were penalties, sacks and incompletions. Really a 2nd half to forget if you're the offense.

they doubled ladd the whole second half, they didnt have to worry about any of our other wrs. Qj gonna drop em or not get open, dissly didnt do anything to put fear into them, and palmer was just running around the whole game. outside of ladd and herbie we had no offense, you take away ladd its only herbert, and herbert doesnt have lamar speed so he cant just back pack the whole offense by running himself all game

[charger1_sj]

they doubled ladd the whole second half, they didnt have to worry about any of our other wrs. Qj gonna drop em or not get open, dissly didnt do anything to put fear into them, and palmer was just running around the whole game. outside of ladd and herbie we had no offense, you take away ladd its only herbert, and herbert doesnt have lamar speed so he cant just back pack the whole offense by running himself all game

Yes and that's a problem I worry about. If we can't run the ball and Herbert has to pass all day, it's going to get ugly unless Roman somehow changes
the strategy.

[charger1993]

Yes and that's a problem I worry about. If we can't run the ball and Herbert has to pass all day, it's going to get ugly unless Roman somehow changes
the strategy.

That's the problem, what strategy could we put out? Unless Vidal turns it up, we have no run game and 1 wr. So we either gotta play fast with drags, bubbles screens, slants, button hooks, or just say fuck it Ladd down there somewhere

[OG619FrightninLightnin]

Lol Justin goes to Sport Clips

Just a regular Joe