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  • jamrock
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    Originally posted by Velo View Post
    Wondering if the Palisades Fire is going to affect air quality at The Bolt and the ability to practice there. The flames are only about 10 air miles away.
    Should be blowing the smoke out to sea as the winds are Santa Ana's but it doesn't look like it is. I think they'll be ok down in El Segundo

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    • Jack Burton
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      Originally posted by UtahBolt View Post

      Nailed it. I would imagine the past 6 months have been difficult in the Allen household.
      Why? Keenan got paid. That’s clearly where his mind is at. He clearly only cared about the money. He’s fine.

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      • ShockNAwe
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        Originally posted by UtahBolt View Post

        Nailed it. I would imagine the past 6 months have been difficult in the Allen household.
        GOOD maybe he will think twice about giving HIS rookie QB all the praise before he took a snap in a real game. Even complimenting his confidence and demeanor as if Herbert didn't have it as we rookie.

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        • Velo
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          • Velo
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            Originally posted by northerner View Post

            i hope this link works. yes, bad look for Keenan. on the plus side, it might hurt his market value, if we do want him.

            Xavier McKinney intercepts the Keenan Allen pass vs. Chicago Bears
            My take is that there is no way KA or MW comes back to the Bolts. The team has turned a corner, moved on. I don't think Hortiz or Harbaugh wants either back. I could be wrong, I frequently misread what the powers that be are thinking, but the team has gotten much younger and better at WR with players who have a higher ceiling.

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            • northerner
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              Originally posted by Velo View Post

              My take is that there is no way KA or MW comes back to the Bolts. The team has turned a corner, moved on. I don't think Hortiz or Harbaugh wants either back. I could be wrong, I frequently misread what the powers that be are thinking, but the team has gotten much younger and better at WR with players who have a higher ceiling.
              Probably a long shot. Keenan might make sense on a pure football evaluation (he had a decent year and will have a lower salary in 2025), but i wonder if feathers were ruffled on the way out.

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              • Bolt4Knob
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                Originally posted by Velo View Post

                Seven of the 8 youngest teams are in the playoffs. The only one that is not is the Raiders. What does that say?
                It says that the NFL is about youth and the prime age for players is both the rookie contract and the first couple years of the second contract

                I have been following this for many years - meaning snaps by age. And if you take away long snapper, punter and kicker - by and large, teams that are younger, do better. Of course there are outliers but its why hitting on the draft every year - 5 to 6 players between the draft and UDFAs is so important.

                Now the Chargers this offseason - older players -
                Bosa might be one of the older players signed for next year
                Mack is a free agent to be as are players like like Hurst, Perryman, Bozeman
                I don't count the long snapper.

                So the Chargers probably will continue to be a pretty young team. Hence, why I think the idea of keeping both Bosa and Mack is not realistic. Both are slowing down and you will be paying for what they did and not what they can do. That said, a guy like Mack, limit his in-season snaps - would have value


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                • dmac_bolt
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                  Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                  Should be blowing the smoke out to sea as the winds are Santa Ana's but it doesn't look like it is. I think they'll be ok down in El Segundo
                  Wind patterns yesterday were coming down hard from the North/Northeast, not the more usual East like we usually see in a Santa Ana. Its coming from Vegas ... I blame Mark.

                  I don't know if or how much smoke is getting down to The Bolt though. I have a friend in Pasadena, said its thick there, but they have the Eaton fire just above them and headed their way.

                  Prayers to any of our TPB brothers and sisters in the LA area, may you and your families all be protected from harm, and if lucky, any property damage as well. Think safety first at all times, stuff can be replaced but you can't.

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by Velo View Post

                    My take is that there is no way KA or MW comes back to the Bolts. The team has turned a corner, moved on. I don't think Hortiz or Harbaugh wants either back. I could be wrong, I frequently misread what the powers that be are thinking, but the team has gotten much younger and better at WR with players who have a higher ceiling.
                    This is what its about. The Chargers are primed to make a sustained multiple year run. They have the cap space to make some good moves and bring back key players this offseason and next. They have a lot of draft capital that will allow Hortiz to move up or back. Maybe Hortiz does another trade like McConkey - still gets a draft pick but just a lower round while getting a guy he wants

                    That is not to say don't sign veterans but I think they should be looking at players that will at worst plateau over the next 3-4 years. Signing MW or Allen, bringing back Mack and Bosa - thats nostalgia.

                    The Vikings had a LB or DE named Van Garfink or Garfinkel or something - that kid is a baller. The Ravens, good drafted, there edge kid named Oweh or something. Hortiz needs to draft the next type of that player.

                    The Chargers have QB, LT, RT, LB, a couple WRs, still have Derwin James, Hanley, two young CBs in Hart and Still -- no need to back to the past

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                    • jamrock
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                      Originally posted by Velo View Post

                      My take is that there is no way KA or MW comes back to the Bolts. The team has turned a corner, moved on. I don't think Hortiz or Harbaugh wants either back. I could be wrong, I frequently misread what the powers that be are thinking, but the team has gotten much younger and better at WR with players who have a higher ceiling.
                      Agree. I think they will continue to build off what they have and add young players at the WR position. If QJ's emergence is real there really would be no place for a KA.

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                      • dmac_bolt
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                        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                        This is what its about. The Chargers are primed to make a sustained multiple year run. They have the cap space to make some good moves and bring back key players this offseason and next. They have a lot of draft capital that will allow Hortiz to move up or back. Maybe Hortiz does another trade like McConkey - still gets a draft pick but just a lower round while getting a guy he wants

                        That is not to say don't sign veterans but I think they should be looking at players that will at worst plateau over the next 3-4 years. Signing MW or Allen, bringing back Mack and Bosa - thats nostalgia.

                        The Vikings had a LB or DE named Van Garfink or Garfinkel or something - that kid is a baller. The Ravens, good drafted, there edge kid named Oweh or something. Hortiz needs to draft the next type of that player.

                        The Chargers have QB, LT, RT, LB, a couple WRs, still have Derwin James, Hanley, two young CBs in Hart and Still -- no need to back to the past
                        Agree on KA and MW. I am spending good money on proven IOL players, not aged WRs who had bad 2024 seasons. The difference between them and Mack is that Mack had a good 2024 season and he gives 110% to his team with every breath he takes. Edge is in the top cluster of priority positions, team needs to get younger there. WR they will figure out - a Day 2 pick won't surprise me.

                        They have to decide on Bosa before the draft - will be interesting to see what they do.
                        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                        • Jack Burton
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                          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                          Agree on KA and MW. I am spending good money on proven IOL players, not aged WRs who had bad 2024 seasons. The difference between them and Mack is that Mack had a good 2024 season and he gives 110% to his team with every breath he takes. Edge is in the top cluster of priority positions, team needs to get younger there. WR they will figure out - a Day 2 pick won't surprise me.

                          They have to decide on Bosa before the draft - will be interesting to see what they do.
                          WR Elic Ayomanor in the 2nd?!?!?


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