Chargers at Rams Preseason Game Day Thread (PS#3)

[richpjr]

Agree if Heinecke has to play. Don't agree if Lance has to play. Lance throws a better ball and is a better runner. He's a Gro type of QB

He is definitely a better athlete, but very, very raw. The guy has 22 total starts in his entire college and NFL career.

[jamrock]

[Boltnut]

Looks like the Game Day Thread was in mid-season form...

[gzubeck]

Not my point. He completed less than 50% of his passes against backups the past 2 games with no game planning against him. I'm far more skeptical than some here seem to be that he is anything other than a developmental 3rd QB who I am not convinced is ready to play in a meaningful game. And yes, we'd be in big trouble if he or Heinecke had to play. Can't imagine what a team like KC and Spags would do to him if he saw the field.

1st read, 2nd read, run with ball or throw it out of bounds. Still way better than Stick! LOL! Lance would also look better with Starting TEs and Conk + KA.

[jaguarmanftype]

That's enough positivity for now. Time to go back to our regularly scheduled programming -- doom and gloom.

There is a real concern with the lack of pass rush on this defense, whether interior or EDGE. Hand and Tart may get a bit of pressure, but they need someone to really step up on the interior or get help. Perhaps Tito can develop back to his 2022 form, but I'm not gambling on it. Certainly, Minter and Clinkscale can get creative with coverages and DB blitzes, but that's not sustainable over the course of the season. Maybe they can let Tuli free roam on the line and rush as a 3T time to time -- there was some success in those old NASCAR packages, just replace Bosa with Dupree. They also really need Kennard to at least develop as a 3rd down pass rush specialist. Perhaps one other option is to really give Caldwell a real look at 5T -- he has impressive agility and perhaps an extra step off the ball would give him an edge for a guy his size with his explosive potential. He had good success as a pass rusher before he was moved to NT in his last year in college, and I'm not sure where else he'd be useful in a rotation otherwise as an NT/DT given that they have Tart, Tito and Hand ahead of him, potentially.

[NoMoreChillies]

getting here late, but QJ hit to the head and KLS hit to the head.... no flags?

Hope they are both ok moving forward.

[21&500]

Maybe they should start giving the refs a fine, if a player gets fined later?

POTD.
and just before midnight.
Well done sir... Or.. Ai device...?

[Boltjolt]

so your argument to say that Lance is shit because we'd be fucked if he had to play? Herbert is an established franchise QB, one of the best in the NFL, of course we'd be fucked if he got hurt, what the heck does that have to do with whether or not Lance merits back up status and a roster spot? If the Chargers cut Lance there is going to be a few teams offering him another shot at a starting position after the way he's looked this preseason...He's been a very nice addition to the roster at his position and he's proven himself worth keeping...

Let's be real ..if Lance is cut nobody will sign him to be a starter. They would sign him to league minimum. The Saints case, compete with Haener and Rattler and got to say, it would be close.
Stick has played better than Lance has.....and I'm not a Stick fan but he has done pretty good with ATL so far. And Stick isnt starting for anyone.
He is in the same boat as Stick has been. A #3 trying to be a #2 except he was way over drafted.

So sure we will keep him. Maybe keep all three? No idea.

[Caslon]

getting here late, but QJ hit to the head and KLS hit to the head.... no flags?

Hope they are both ok moving forward.

What’s the deal with having QJ run that exact same play game after game (it seems)? Deja Vu.

[Fouts2herbert]

Not my point. He completed less than 50% of his passes against backups the past 2 games with no game planning against him. I'm far more skeptical than some here seem to be that he is anything other than a developmental 3rd QB who I am not convinced is ready to play in a meaningful game. And yes, we'd be in big trouble if he or Heinecke had to play. Can't imagine what a team like KC and Spags would do to him if he saw the field.

It goes both ways, not like he's had a chance to game plan for any of the players he's been up against either and it doesn't matter that we'd be in trouble if he had to replace Herbert, name one team with a superstar starting QB, the Bills, Chiefs, Ravens, etc...name one where they'd be better off if the starter got hurt?...you're arguing something that nobody is even arguing and that everyone knows to be true as a means to discuss whether the player has done enough to merit a roster spot?...your logic doesn't make sense and it's just about sounding like you know what you're talking about, sure if Herbert goes down it wouldn't be good for us, no shit, not exactly a revelation there...

Lance has looked surprisingly good, thru bad play calling, bad O-line play, dropped passes by receivers, playing with a sprained and bruised throwing hand, and thru all of it he's looked poised, mature, steady, and consistent, he's managed long drives, and never looked rattled. He's gotten what he could without forcing passes, he's also looked dynamic running the ball, and he's protected the ball and given his team a chance to win...he also signed a super cheap team friendly deal in the 2 mil range while Zach Wilson got like 4x as much and both drafted same draft one pick apart and I have no qualms saying that Lance has been every bit as good as Wilson and maybe even better since both signed during free agency, Lance wishes he had the play calling that Zach Wilson has in Miami...

BTW, what would the Chiefs or Bills look like without Mahomes or Allen?

[Fouts2herbert]

Let's be real ..if Lance is cut nobody will sign him to be a starter. They would sign him to league minimum. The Saints case, compete with Haener and Rattler and got to say, it would be close.
Stick has played better than Lance has.....and I'm not a Stick fan but he has done pretty good with ATL so far. And Stick isnt starting for anyone.
He is in the same boat as Stick has been. A #3 trying to be a #2 except he was way over drafted.

So sure we will keep him. Maybe keep all three? No idea.

Lance is making less money in 2025 than what we paid Stick in 2024 to be the #3, about 37% less, and I would argue that he's already shown more poise and efficiency in one preseason than Stick did in his entire 6 year Charger preseason career, not sure how the overdrafted argument plays into whether or not he deserves a roster spot as a #3 emergency QB which a lot of teams carry now since the rule change about emergency QBs not counting against the number of activated players...

The way Lance has looked there is no way that Kellen Moore wouldn't rather have him as an option right now over anything he has over there...The Jets, The Browns, there are teams out there that might give him a shot after what he's shown if not at starting perhaps as the primary backup...not sure what we're arguing here, if Lance is fighting for the #3 spot then I think he's already looked better than any guy fighting for that spot in a good long while, at least the last 6 years, he's also a fantastic fit for the type of offense that Harbuagh wants to run...honestly I don't see how Lance hasn't already secured the #3 spot behind Herbert and Heinecki...we could do worse at emergency QB, we have in the recent past for sure...

[Fouts2herbert]

He is definitely a better athlete, but very, very raw. The guy has 22 total starts in his entire college and NFL career.

how many #3 emergency QBs are being graded by whether or not they are worthy starters in the league right now? they're all #3s for a reason, and no one wants those guys starting for their respective teams because it means that their best QBs have gotten hurt, this argument has nothing to do with whether or not Lance has proven worthy of becoming the emergency QB, which he has...