Chargers at Giants (Week 4) | Pre-game Discussion

[northerner]

Crazy huh?
47 passes
28 runs
5 sacks

Was an unusual game in that respect. LAC had been below average in plays run over first two weeks.

i thought we actually looked our best against the chiefs. we kind of struggled to move the ball (most of the game) against a punchless raider team, and denver's defense made it a slugfest that we barely won.

[jamrock]

i thought we actually looked our best against the chiefs. we kind of struggled to move the ball (most of the game) against a punchless raider team, and denver's defense made it a slugfest that we barely won.

I tend to agree. Offense was not that good against the Raiders especially at the end. Denver required Herbert heroics or what Harbaugh described as "impossible". Nix couldn't hit wide open guys running free or it would have been much different.

[CanadianBoltFan]

I dunno. Maybe their only talent on d is in the DL. That's where they've been using their high picks.

I guess we'll see what they're about on Sunday as I haven't watched the NY football giants

The Giants secondary should be better than it is playing so far. Their safeties are decent on paper, they signed Jevon Holland this year and drafted Tyler Nubin pretty high last year.

[Fouts2herbert]

The Raiders had an offensive lineman that was bipolar. When they played the Bucs in the SB he freaked out, went to TJ and disappeared for the game. Sad indeed.

I remember that, how weird that was, it really hurt the Raiders too...and he was like one of the better centers in the NFL during that time, so not like he was just a guy, he was a legit loss...

[dmac_bolt]

I dunno. Maybe their only talent on d is in the DL. That's where they've been using their high picks.

I guess we'll see what they're about on Sunday as I haven't watched the NY football giants

I keep hearing that and reading that, but I don't see it in the data ... Fortunately, if they do put it together, our QB has an extraordinary amount of experience working under pressure. In addition to their pressure stats, NYG are 31st in rush defense (chart below) and total defense (yards allowed).

Dart does have more talent than Russ, I'm counting on opening day jitters and Minter confusions to cause enough hesitations or errors that we win comfortably. I'm just not going to find a way to worry about the NYG, apologies I've busted some balls for those that are - I didn't mean to be the ass-hat I guess I sounded like, I'll try to dial back. Just havin' some fun with my pals, I was raised by wolves.

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[richpjr]

Interestingly, we play 3 of the top pressure teams and 3 of the bottom pressure teams from that list.

[jubei]

That shit is on him tho, I remember the off season before his last season in Seattle he sought out the media to basically declare that he wanted out of Seattle because the offense there was limiting his potential…the interview that he did during Super Bowl week that year really pissed a lot of people off, I went from thinking he was a hard working self made guy to realizing that he was a delusional fucking douche bag with an ego the size of Mount Everest…Russell fucked himself over…and then he’s not backed it up on the field since…I think he still has time to pull a Baker Mayfield and get his career back on track but he needs to take a step back down from the pedestal he put himself on and just get back to work…no more red carpets and jet magazine covers with his semi-celebrity wife…he just needs to get back to what got him into the league, reapply himself to his craft…

the thing is he PHYSICALLY CANT do what he did when he was younger...escape the pocket for 5 more seconds and find the open receiver downfield after every DB was done covering. that was his game back then...not nomo it aint. I used to like him early in his career but like you said...that shit he pulled at the end of the Seahawk era was a diva act and I hate divas. glad he's suckin now.

[dmac_bolt]

the thing is he PHYSICALLY CANT do what he did when he was younger...escape the pocket for 5 more seconds and find the open receiver downfield after every DB was done covering. that was his game back then...not nomo it aint. I used to like him early in his career but like you said...that shit he pulled at the end of the Seahawk era was a diva act and I hate divas. glad he's suckin now.

Agree. Russ has been washed for 4+ seasons. Its glaringly obvious in his play, his tape, and his results. SEA knew exactly what they had and what they were doing ... teams don't dump good starting QBs. My only wish is that DEN still believed in him but I'm not worried too much now that they have Nix so ... all good. Any duel between Herbert and either of them strongly favors the Chargers.

all jmo, ymmv.

[Riverwalk]

Center, RG, and RT could all be backups Sunday. Andre James, Jamaree Salyer, Austin Deculus.

Thing you never expected to see as early as the 4th game of the season…

[dmac_bolt]

Yahoo Expert Picks agree with me:

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[powderblueboy]

I tend to agree. Offense was not that good against the Raiders especially at the end. Denver required Herbert heroics or what Harbaugh described as "impossible". Nix couldn't hit wide open guys running free or it would have been much different.

If Nix was Joe Willie Namath on the deep ball, then yes, it would have been much different.

Went to the Chiefs website and someone made the joke, universally agreed upon there, that Nix should never be allowed to throw the deep ball .... he's incapable of making those throws.
With the long TD pass to Sutton at the end of the 1rst half, his quota was reached .

[dmac_bolt]

If Nix was Joe Willie Namath on the deep ball, then yes, it would have been much different.

Went to the Chiefs website and someone made the joke, universally agreed upon there, that Nix should never be allowed to throw the deep ball .... he's incapable of making those throws.
With the long TD pass to Sutton at the end of the 1rst half, his quota was reached.

Everyone can question specific plays, I argue that happens to every team every week but thats ok. Bottom line is once again, Minter knew what he was doing vs DEN. the proof is on the scoreboard and in the box score.