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  • oneinchpunch
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    Derek Cox said that he was caught off guard.

    He shouldn't have been.

    The Chargers cornerback confessed that he was "still trying to figure it out."

    It's pretty self-explanatory.

    Cox spent the final 25 minutes of Sunday's loss to the Redskins on the sideline, and a half hour after the game, said he hadn't heard from a coach as to why.

    But the reason is simple: It was time.

    All season long, Cox has looked like a shot putter chasing down sprinters. Even when the Chargers win, he ends up getting beat.

    The latest receiver to blow by the 27-year-old for a massive gain was Washington's Pierre Garcon, who picked up 38 yards on a third-quarter catch that led to a Redskins touchdown. Cox, who was replaced by Johnny Patrick, didn't play another series all game.

    If we were discussing any other cornerback for San Diego, this wouldn't be news. The Bolts may be weaker at that position than any team in the NFL.

    But Cox was supposed to be the redeemer, the key offseason acquisition -- the stud who signed a four-year, $20 million deal last March after four solid seasons in Jacksonville.

    He hasn't delivered, though. The Chargers' most expensive signing of 2013 has been way more than a dollar short.

    In the season-opener, for example, Cox's head-scratching late retreat helped Houston convert on third and 18, which led to a Texans score in their come-from-three-touchdowns-behind win.

    In Oakland last month, Rod Streater burned Cox for a 44-yard TD pass on the Raiders' first offensive snap of the game.

    Against Indianapolis a week later, Cox gave up a 35-yard pass to Reggie Wayne on a flea flicker, and one quarter later, watched Darrius Heyward-Bey fly past him and drop a would-be touchdown pass.

    So when Garcon became Cox's latest conqueror Sunday, the Chargers' coaches had seen enough.

    It seemed the fans had, too.

    "Courtney Cox would be a better cover corner than Derek Cox," tweeted one Bolts' die-hard.

    "Derek Cox is a millionaire and I have no idea why," tweeted another.

    Chargers coach Mike McCoy wouldn't comment on the reason for Cox's benching, saying only that "we made a decision to put someone else in. We'll do whatever we think is best to make the team win."

    However, when a reporter asked whether Cox would start against Denver next week, McCoy refused to commit, saying "we'll talk about it as the week goes on."

    That, in a sense, is incredible. Given the needs the Chargers had at the position, and the hype surrounding Cox's arrival in San Diego, him being a possible starter after eight games is mind-blowing.

    Cox's countenance after the game made it clear that he was upset if not outright stunned. But his language remained upbeat, even if his body language did not.

    Asked where he'll go from here, Cox answered "Up -- always up. I'm always moving forward."

    Asked how he's adjusting to playing with the Chargers, something he admitted to struggling with at first, he replied "it's getting better and better. I'll keep growing and growing. It's all positive."

    Cox also said that he was healthy and "not frustrated" with some of the big plays he's given up. And it may be worth nothing -- he has been benched before.

    In 2010, Cox was demoted to second-string after starting all 16 games as a rookie the season before. The relegation only lasted a couple weeks, but he remembers it vividly.

    In regards to this most recent sidelining, he said he is going to respond the same way his team should -- which is to get back on the practice field and work toward getting a win.

    It's the right attitude to have. You gotta stay hungry in this league.

    Lord knows Cox's opponents have. For the past few weeks, they've feasted on him.
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    • oneinchpunch
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      AJ Smith given the game ball after yesterday's game
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      • oneinchpunch
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        #15
        From the other thread topic...

        Which position on defense is better than last year?
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        • TTK
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          #16
          Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
          From the other thread topic...

          Which position on defense is better than last year?
          That's like asking if cat excrement tastes better than dog excrement.

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          • oneinchpunch
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            Originally posted by TTK View Post
            That's like asking if cat excrement tastes better than dog excrement.
            Still, which position has more talent than last year?
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            • homeless simpson
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              #18
              Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
              Still, which position has more talent than last year?
              the...fetal position?

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                #19
                Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                From the other thread topic...

                Which position on defense is better than last year?
                Unfortunately, that's a good point. Even Weddle is not as good as he was a year ago.

                If I had to pick one place we've improved, it would be at backup defensive end.

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                • TTK
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                  #20
                  Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                  Still, which position has more talent than last year?
                  I don't know if any are more talented but I'd say there is more upside since the defense has gone younger in a lot of positions.

                  The bottom line is that the defense still suffers from the same problem it did last year. Poor pass rush and can't get off the field on 3rd downs. And they've gotten worse at stopping the run.

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                  • oneinchpunch
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                    #21
                    Originally posted by TTK View Post
                    I don't know if any are more talented but I'd say there is more upside since the defense has gone younger in a lot of positions.
                    I'll play along with that.

                    Upside at:

                    NT: Downgrade
                    LDE: Same
                    RDE: Same or less
                    LOLB: Less
                    LILB: Same? Te'o hasnt been very good
                    RILB: Downgrade
                    ROLB: Same
                    LCB: Downgrade
                    RCB: Downgrade
                    FS: Downgrade
                    SS: Downgrade
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                    • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                      #22
                      San Diego Chargers Telesco is making all the moves
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                      San Diego Chargers General Manager Tom Telesco was hired on January 9, 2013 after long-time GM A.J. Smith had long since worn out his tenure. Along with new Head Coach Mike McCoy, Telesco made an impact early on in his time with the Chargers, drafting current starters OT D.J. Fluker, WR Keenan Allen and ILB Manti Te’o in the 2013 draft and CB Jason Verrett, OLB Jeremiah Attaochu, OG Chris Watt and DT Ryan Carrethers in the 2014 NFL Draft.

                      All of these players have produced mightily for the Bolts and should see long term success as long as they stay healthy and work hard.


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                      Some may look at Telesco’s age (42) and think that he’s not capable of being a GM quite yet. I believe the exact opposite is true of the wise-beyond-his-years Chargers GM who has been involved in football his entire life.

                      After playing college football with John Carroll University, Telesco then worked scouting jobs around the NFL for the Buffalo Bills (1991-94), Carolina Panthers (1995-97) and the Indianapolis Colts (1998-2005) before accepting the job to be the Colts’ Director of Player Personnel in 2005. From 2006-2012, the Colts made the playoffs a total six times (every year besides 2011), including two trips to the Super Bowl with a Super Bowl win in 2006 over the Chicago Bears. As well, Telesco was a part of the selections of both QBs Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck in the 1998 and 2012 NFL Drafts.

                      Two trips to the Super Bowl and two potential hall-of-fame quarterback picks? Sounds like experience enough for me.

                      Regardless of his past, this off-season has been where Telesco has made his mark.

                      For the Chargers, 2015 has been kind and unkind in so many different ways. It has been unkind in that CB Shareece Wright, WR Eddie Royal, ILB Andrew Gachkar, SS Marcus Gilchrist, OLB Jarrett Johnson, OLB Dwight Freeney, OG Chad Rhinehart and starting RB Ryan Mathews are all on new teams, retired or on free agency, waiting to be picked up by new teams.

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                      But, on the other hand, Tom Telesco has been able to bring in some very important pieces on offense in OG Orlando Franklin (Denver Broncos) and WRs Stevie Johnson (San Francisco 49ers), Jacoby Jones (Baltimore Ravens) and Austin Pettis (St. Louis Rams) and on defense in DL Mitch Unrein (Denver) and DBs Jimmy Wilson (Miami Dolphins) and Patrick Robinson (New Orleans Saints).

                      The additions of Wilson and especially Robinson are huge for the Chargers secondary.

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                      Wilson recorded 58 tackles, two passes defended and one interception while with the Dolphins. He’s a run stopper and adds needed depth at the safety position.

                      As for Robinson, after being a first round pick in 2010, Robinson had some great seasons with New Orleans, defending 15 (2011), 18 (2012), and 11 (2014) and intercepting four (2011), three (2012) and two (2014) passes during his three best seasons with the Saints. Robinson will be a great replacement for the departing CB Shareece Wright and should give the Chargers a shut-down-esque presence in the secondary.


                      In terms of the defense, Telesco really hasn’t thrown much money at the defensive front seven besides Unrein and the re-signing of DE Ricardo Mathews.

                      Perhaps he’s been waiting till after the draft, but Telesco needs to make some splashes or else there will be no good defensive presences left. There is a definite need at the ILB, OLB and SS positions that needs to be addressed this off-season. And while there are some good rookies out there, I believe that a veteran free agent would be the best fit for San Diego.

                      For example, Bernard Pollard (Tennessee Titans), Quintin Demps (New York Giants) and Danieal Manning (Houston Texans) are still on the board in terms of free agent strong safeties. Chase Blackburn (Carolina Panthers), Osi Umenyiora (Atlanta Falcons), Rolando McClain (Dallas Cowboys) and Brandon Spikes (Buffalo Bills) are all free agent linebackers that could easily make a difference for San Diego.

                      At the same time though, I think that the Bolts should let some of their players play. For example, DTs Sean Lissemore and Ryan Carrethers were adequate, but not outstanding in 2014. I think that Telesco should draft another DT, but let Lissemore and Carrethers improve and prove themselves in 2015 before making any game-changing moves.

                      And while the defense has some things that need to be worked out, Telesco has made the Bolts offense virtually unstoppable. If you look at the O-line and the receiving corps, it’s pretty stacked.


                      Malcom Floyd, Keenan Allen, Antonio Gates, Stevie Johnson, Jacoby Jones, Austin Pettis and Dontrelle Inman are more than enough receiving power to make this San Diego offense great. And when your offensive line is as good as the Chargers, it’s hard to not be excited.

                      The only real question mark on this offense past how long Philip Rivers will stay in San Diego is the running back position. Letting Ryan Mathews go was an unfortunate, but necessary bi-product of free agency. The problem is the Chargers have no one to replace Mathews in the future.

                      Perhaps the draft will signal a clearer picture of what Telesco’s plan is for 2015. Only time will tell.
                      Go Rivers!

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                      • Mister Hoarse
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                        How many more Bye weeks until the Draft?
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                        • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                          Four...
                          Go Rivers!

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