Sorry Fellas. Mike McCoy is not the guy.

[sandiego17]

I am pretty sure it was. 1st and 13, 2nd and 12, 3rd and 11 all conservative run plays. At what other point in the game where we are trying to put together a drive did we call plays like that?

First and ten to start the drive got 7. The other runs got stuffed. Why not just take knees in victory formation if punt is the call? Why risk a fumble, you're just going to punt, right? That would have been something nobody has ever seen, McCoy the trail blazing bolt.

[sandiego17]

From the arguments MCCoy has little control over the team on game days

I don't get that sense. It's more arguments that the 'critical' mistakes are overblown. Nobody has a perfect game, to expect it is as ridiculous as harping on that drive at the end of he first half.

[BlazingBolt]

First and ten to start the drive got 7. The other runs got stuffed. Why not just take knees in victory formation if punt is the call? Why risk a fumble, you're just going to punt, right? That would have been something nobody has ever seen, McCoy the trail blazing bolt.

They still might break a run so of course they are not going to kneel.

You think the running play called on 3rd and 11 is ever called when the priority is to get a first down? What do you think of a draw on 3rd and 15?

I'm not saying they had to pass on 1st down, I am saying when you look at all 3 runs consecutively and the down and distance it's pretty clear they were running clock and punting. That was the strategy

Yeah you get 7 on first down 2 more runs ain't the same thing. When you have more than 10 yards on all 3 downs and you call conservative runs it says something different.

[oneinchpunch]

I don't get that sense. It's more arguments that the 'critical' mistakes are overblown. Nobody has a perfect game, to expect it is as ridiculous as harping on that drive at the end of he first half.

So the critical mistakes are on the coordinators but the good decisions are on the HC?

[Panamamike]

From the arguments MCCoy has little control over the team on game days

Not sure where you get "little control" over the team on game days. All I said was he, like most coaches, does not call his own plays. A few do, most of those were long time co-ordinators before becoming a head coach.

[Panamamike]

So the critical mistakes are on the coordinators but the good decisions are on the HC?

Not sure how you infer that by what you quoted.

[oneinchpunch]

Not sure where you get "little control" over the team on game days. All I said was he, like most coaches, does not call his own plays. A few do, most of those were long time co-ordinators before becoming a head coach.

So what do you believe McCoy does?

It's a question no one seems able to answer.

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

I get it. There is a segment that wants to love McCoy so much because he is not Norv they will shift the blame for mistakes like that on to whiz.

If you look at the beginning of the thread this discussion is right there. People absolving McCoy of the Washington goal line debacle because whiz is the play caller.

Heck if you look at the thread you can see making the playoffs has made his defenders more loyal. I criticized a bunch of crap less egregious than the cincy punt and the defense wasn't nearly as strong. Of course I am making wild assumptions here but that's my right.

McCoy has grown on me because of the recent success but I can't overlook what I see as game management blunders, even in victory they bug me(clearly)

Could you stop this crap? It's fine to say or believe whatever you like about McCoy. But why do you feel the need to question the motives of anyone who happens to not agree with you?

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

So what do you believe McCoy does?

It's a question no one seems able to answer.

Insufferable.

[KNSD]

I think he manages the game, involved in all aspects. Fourth and inches? His call, not whiz.

Weddle's call.

[BlazingBolt]

Could you stop this crap? It's fine to say or believe whatever you like about McCoy. But why do you feel the need to question the motives of anyone who happens to not agree with you?

You are participating. Feel free to ignore my posts if they bother you.

I was going to say something else, but I decided to give you a nice post.

I have never had a warning from a mod ever so as far as I can tell I am not breaking any rules. If you want to butt heads more I will continue to say outlandish things and try to get under your skin with in the rules so maybe you should just stop.

It's not personal, it's just what makes forums fun.

[Panamamike]

I would imagine that he is watching the game plan unfold, seeing what is working well, what is not working well, so they can make adjustments at half time. As well as making the calls to go for it or not on 4th down, to punt or go for a long fg, ride the refs ass, decide challenges, and call TO when he sees something he does not like etc. IF he does not like the general play calling, I am sure he lets that be known.....I.e. Too much soft coverage, not enough blitzing, too much run or pass, too many deep throws. play callers often get tunnel vision, he keeps the play callers on point to the gameplan, while observing its effectiveness so that changes to strategy on either side of the ball can be communicated and implemented by the co-ordinators. Hence, he is responsible for the overall game plan and his co-ordinators carry it out.