Charger cuts to 53

**Boltjolt** · 09-02-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

Fact remains that preseason means nada.

It doest as far as wins and loses but if you aren't making tackles and aren't performng well then it does.

**Steve** · 09-02-2017, 04:36 PM

Adrian Phillips looks the part but is just not that good a player. I have never understood what they see in him.

Same with Dzubnar. He had a great preseason his 1st year, and has committed almost as many personal fouls as he has ST tackles.

**Panamamike** · 09-02-2017, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

It doest as far as wins and loses but if you aren't making tackles and aren't performng well then it does. Kinda surprised you would make that comment. Ask Micheal Davis and Barner and Caraun Ried if it meant nothing. They didn't play well.

Of course it matters for the bottom 10-15% of the roster. Reid and Davis got caight up in a numbers game. Davis proved he struggles locating the bsll in the air. Barner was injured much of preseason, and someone else excelled.dabis needs PS reps to work on some things.

my point was saying our run d is weak because of preseason performance, especially week 4 means nada come next week.

**WindsorUK** · 09-02-2017, 04:51 PM

Really surprised Tevi made the final cut.
Did ANYONE see that happening? Our O line must be in a REALLY bad way.

**whookimane** · 09-02-2017, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Steve View Post

Adrian Phillips looks the part but is just not that good a player. I have never understood what they see in him.

Same with Dzubnar. He had a great preseason his 1st year, and has committed almost as many personal fouls as he has ST tackles.

I have been asking myself the same questions about the same 2 guys for years now

**RTPbolt** · 09-02-2017, 05:15 PM

I dont think TT is done yet. I think we will see some movement yet.

**Formula 21** · 09-02-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post

Really surprised Tevi made the final cut.
Did ANYONE see that happening? Our O line must be in a REALLY bad way.

I didn't see it coming, but Jenkins didn't win a job either IMO. So the Bolts kept all their draft picks (plus 5 UDFA) with the intention of coaching them up. 12 rookies, that's a lot of mistakes waiting to happen this year.

**Boltjolt** · 09-02-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

Of course it matters for the bottom 10-15% of the roster. Reid and Davis got caight up in a numbers game. Davis proved he struggles locating the bsll in the air. Barner was injured much of preseason, and someone else excelled.dabis needs PS reps to work on some things.

my point was saying our run d is weak because of preseason performance, especially week 4 means nada come next week.

It was weak..all preseason long. Preseason doesn't matter in most things but that fact that they didn't get better is something to be concerned about.

Our backups on both sides of the ball weren't good and they kept a lot of them that weren't that good. I didn't think Harris or Owaunu stood out at all, and they made the team.
Remember the preseason our offense( first string) didn't play that well? Well that carried into the season and they weren't that good most of the

And injuries will happen.

**OhioBolt** · 09-02-2017, 05:34 PM

I would do the following cut
Phillips we have 4 safeties (Adaae, Boston, McCoil, Jenkins) and Desmond King can go from nickel CB to Safety if needed I would keep Micheal Davis or pickup RB Ryan Mathews I like our backs the only thing is if Gordon went down our backups are small guys not exactly the guys you want on short yardage runs.

McGrath or Culkin one needs to go we don't need 4 TE's and maybe one will be gone, if we claim some cable backup OT on waivers

Dzunbar I am thinking once Perryman is healthy we can find a replacement for Dzunbar his only asset is special teams there are guys like him that have more talent as a backup

**Formula 21** · 09-02-2017, 06:30 PM

Prisco's 2017 All-Cut Team: Brock Osweiler, weak offensive line join strong secondary

With NFL roster cuts wrapped up, the Browns lead the way with four players on our All-Cut Team
by Pete Prisco

@PriscoCBS

There have been some on Twitter this week saying that you could put together a decent team from the final NFL cuts this year.
No chance.
There are two reasons why: quarterback and offensive line.
Good luck finding good players in either area that would help you compete. They just aren't there. Consider this: The starting quarterback on the All-Cut Team I put together from the final NFL cuts Saturday is none other than Brock Osweiler, who was cut by the Browns.

They paid him $16 million -- the salary he would have made if still on the team -- to go away. That tells you all you need to know. He's returning to the Broncos, but only because Paxton Lynch is hurt.
As far players on the offensive line, I scrambled to find a unit that could even come close to competing. There are some veterans on my list, but how much do they have left? There just aren't enough good ones in the league anymore.
So forget the talk this team could win a few games. It's a team that would be a 14-point underdog to the New York Jets, who might not win a game this season.
With that, here's the 2017 All-Cut team:

Offense

QB Brock Osweiler (Browns): The Osweiler era in Cleveland didn't last long, despite the early talk that he had a chance to start. He's on his way back to Denver where he started games in 2016.
RB Chris Johnson (Cardinals): Age finally caught up to the speedy Johnson as he had a rough preseason and got caught in the numbers game. He turns 32 this month, so will he continue to play?
RB Matt Jones (Redskins): He was a starter to begin the 2016 season, and did some good things, but he fell out of favor with the Redskins. He will get picked up.
WR Jeremy Kerley (49ers): He was the 49ers' leading receiver a year ago, but was made expendable by the free-agent signings of Pierre Garcon and Marquise Goodwin.
WR Victor Cruz (Bears): The former Giants player was trying to keep his career alive with the Bears, but they opted to go in another direction. Is this the end for him?
TE Jace Amaro (Titans): This former second-round pick of the Jets has never lived up to the hype. He had three catches last season for the Titans and hasn't been the same player since suffering a torn labrum in 2015.
OT Khalif Barnes (Saints): He has started for Jacksonville and Oakland in his career, so there is some experience for a team looking for help.
G John Greco (Browns): He has been a good starter in his time with the Browns, which is why his release surprised some. He will be playing elsewhere this season.
C Jeremy Zuttah (Ravens): He started for the Ravens last season, went to San Francisco, was cut early in camp and then was brought back to the Ravens before being let go this week.
G Alex Boone (Vikings): He was signed as a major free agent in 2016, but he missed two games with injury last season and the Vikings obviously don't think he's worth the big deal they gave to him. They reportedly did ask him to take a pay cut, and he refused.
OT Eric Winston (Bengals): He has been a quality starter in his career, but is now more of a backup if he wants to continue playing.

Defense

DE Will Clarke (Bengals): They drafted him in 2015 with the idea he would someday be a starter, but it never happened. With the drafting of Carl Lawson and Jordan Willis, he was expendable.
DT Quinton Dial (49ers): He has been a starter for the 49ers, but the change in schemes hurt his chances this summer. But he is a solid player for a team looking for depth up front.
DT Ahtyba Rubin (Seahawks): When they traded for Sheldon Richardson from the Jets, Rubin was expendable. He's been a starter in Cleveland and in Seattle.
DE Devin Taylor (Giants): He started all 16 games for the Lions in 2016, so there is some ability there. He signed with the Giants as a free agent.
OLB Jelani Jenkins (Raiders): He started 34 games for the Dolphins from 2014-26 before signing a one-year deal with the Raiders this spring. Maybe he goes back to Miami.
ILB Sean Spence (Colts): He played a lot for the Titans last year and was signed as a potential starter by the Colts. But he missed time in camp, and the team decided to move on.
OLB Antwione Williams (Lions): He appeared to be a starter at one point this summer, but he lost his job and then was cut. He has some ability.
CB Senquez Golden (Steelers): He spent his two seasons with the Steelers injured, but this second-round pick has some ability. He will likely get a look from another team.
CB Joe Haden (Browns): He's already been signed by the Steelers, which shows they think the Browns made a mistake. But Cleveland cut him for financial reasons as much as anything. He has been slowed by injuries the past two seasons, but the Steelers signed him the same day he was released.
S T.J. Ward (Broncos): Some people had to be shocked to see him on this list, but when word came last week he was being shopped in trade talks, it was almost inevitable. He's a good player who can help a team in need.
S Dwight Lowery (Chargers): He has been a quality starter for a long time, but they opted to go younger at the spot.

Special Teams
P Andy Lee (Panthers): They opted to get rid of the veteran to keep Michael Palardy. Lee didn't have a great year in 2016 and ended the season on injured reserve.
K Cody Parkey (Browns): He lost his job to rookie Zane Gonzalez from Arizona State. Parkey made 20 of his 25 field goals last year.

**Formula 21** · 09-02-2017, 06:32 PM

As always, forget about getting an OL from the cuts. You have to keep drafting and developing these guys if you want a quality OL.

**Fleet** · 09-02-2017, 06:34 PM

MW a couple weeks away from practicing. Perryman will go on IR and come back when hes available.

Charger cuts to 53

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