Peyton didn't break record?

[sandiego17]

This rationale is pure horse manure.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10224344/peyton-manning-passing-yardage-record-stand

...there was an issue with a 7-yard completion from Manning to Eric Decker late in the first half that could have changed the play to a run, allowing Brees to keep the record. In one camera angle, the pass to Decker looks like a lateral, which would make it a running play. Another angle, from above, shows Decker receiving the ball at the Broncos' 48-yard line, with Manning slightly deeper than that.

Elias Sports Bureau made the final call after reviewing the play, which will remain a pass.

If its inconclusive, I agree with Elias that the ruling should stand. However, there does appear to be some Manning Golden Child rule influencing the conclusive-ity, but that's just my opinion.

[Mister Hoarse]

Conclusive-ity logo:

[oneinchpunch]

Oh, so that "other angle". The one the NFL isn't allowed to show fans. No wonder.

[6025]

Oh, so that "other angle". The one the NFL isn't allowed to show fans. No wonder.

I wonder if that copy was burned so not to provide an unfair advantage to other teams?

[Panama]

If I am not mistaken the play was ruled a pass during the game and Peyton set the record. So how can we as fans say those yards should be taken away from him based on re-reviewing game tape after the fact and then turn around and say too bad when it comes to the refs missing our illegal line-up during the FG attempt on Sunday? If both were ruled one way during the game then they should stay that way. We can't or shouldn't have it both ways.

Completely different scenario. In the case of the FG, to overturn the play would be to change something that happened on the field. In the case of the pass/lateral, the only thing you are changing is the description of the play. This has no bearing on the outcome at all.

In the case of the FG, the league has no choice but to let it stand. In the case of the pass/lateral, they have an obligation to change it if they deem the pass a lateral.

[Panama]

You guys seem to take someone disagreeing with you really personal. It is pretty sad. It's not a big deal.

When there's a disagreement on a matter of opinion, there's plenty of room to debate.

But when someone is wrong on a point of fact, as you have been in this thread, there is no room for debate. Our choices become: (1) correct the factual error, or (2) allow you persist in your error but discredit anything further you say on the subject. Personally, since I enjoy your contributions, I would choose to attempt to disabuse you of your error rather than dismiss anything else you have to say on the matter out of hand.

[Panama]

I think Brees retaining the record would be a dishonest road. Manning was told he had the record so he sat for the 2nd half. If he wasn't mislead he would have stayed on until he did officially get the record.

You don't know that. For all we know, he may not have had any intention of playing the second half at all.

[SFW]

When there's a disagreement on a matter of opinion, there's plenty of room to debate.

But when someone is wrong on a point of fact, as you have been in this thread, there is no room for debate. Our choices become: (1) correct the factual error, or (2) allow you persist in your error but discredit anything further you say on the subject. Personally, since I enjoy your contributions, I would choose to attempt to disabuse you of your error rather than dismiss anything else you have to say on the matter out of hand.

I said part of the reason that some fans are totally for it being changed is due to not liking Peyton. That is not a fact, just my opinion. Does not mean every fan feels that way (as you can see 6025 took exception to) but you can also see that Yubaking agreed as to being the case for him.

I understand that plays are reviewed and sometimes changed (I never disputed that). In this case the Elias group reviewed the play and left it as called on the field. That is all I ever said should be done from the beginning.

I understand many of the regulars here feel it is in the their duty to correct any wrong info that gets posted (I do the same). Like I said, it isn't a big deal. In this case I disagree with many of you, other times I am on your side. In the end, it isn't a big deal.

[oneinchpunch]

When there's a disagreement on a matter of opinion, there's plenty of room to debate.

But when someone is wrong on a point of fact, as you have been in this thread, there is no room for debate. Our choices become: (1) correct the factual error, or (2) allow you persist in your error but discredit anything further you say on the subject. Personally, since I enjoy your contributions, I would choose to attempt to disabuse you of your error rather than dismiss anything else you have to say on the matter out of hand.

Especially since the post he quoted wasn't even directed towards him.

[SFW]

Especially since the post he quoted wasn't even directed towards him.

Yeah, especially that.

[KNSD]

Eli-as Group

Makes sense now!

[KNSD]

How about "Asked and Answered" - Get over it everybody. Move on.