NFL Standings If Every One-Score Game Was Flipped

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  • richpjr
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    #13
    Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

    Don't bring that up because this thread is for the Rivers haters.
    LOL - exactly. If we had a QB like Taylor playing, this stat would not matter because we'd lose most games by more than 7 points.

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    • ChargingBolts
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      #14
      Originally posted by richpjr View Post

      LOL - exactly. If we had a QB like Taylor playing, this stat would not matter because we'd lose most games by more than 7 points.
      Exactly, people think this record is a knock on Rivers, it's a compliment as it's because of Rivers it's a one score game instead of a blowout.
      Last edited by ChargingBolts; 01-15-2020, 01:46 PM.

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        #15
        Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

        How many games have the Chargers had with a game with no sacks? Almost every game the O-line has given up a sack for the last two years.
        Its not just the sacks allowed. Its the hurries on third down to force an incomplete pass. Its lack of push on a running play that leads to a punt. I know this thread is about flipping record but its why if TElesco doesn't fix the OL or be talking about OL every day in meetings from today until the draft - his backside should be bleep-canned. Seriously - if he fixes the OL - this team can be a 10 game winner. The margins in the NFL are that close.

        Look at the Titan game - if the OL gets push maybe there is a score and Gordon is not stopped - he was like 6 inches on the second down play or less from scoring.

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        • Charge!
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          #16
          Originally posted by Topcat View Post
          That's what distinguishes good teams from crummy teams...
          Talent is key but its is coaching that helps a team be prepared, disciplined, make fewer mental errors, penalties, turnovers, bad game day decisions, bad angles, bad play design, choosing the right players for certain situations, etc..........

          consistently losing close games is usually about the coaching...... sometimes the QB if you have a bad QB......

          super talented teams with good coaching dont have many close games..... unless its against another well coached talented team

          average talented teams with great coaching find a way to squeak out those close games.....well coached teams dont turn ball over much, donator commit as many penalties or get caught as much.... and have better ST's......they do all the little things better....

          Badly coached teams with good talent tend to play close but still find ways to lose..... especially different ways to lose every week..... remember even when Rivers had games with not turnovers, we still found other ways to lose..... I think Rivers has always made chargers look like we had more talent than we had..... LT and gates were special but most of the rest were average at best......

          badly talented teams lose baldly most weeks...... basely talented but with great coaching, tend to play hard and win a few games when unexpected, through effort.....

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            #17
            Originally posted by Charge! View Post

            Talent is key but its is coaching that helps a team be prepared, disciplined, make fewer mental errors, penalties, turnovers, bad game day decisions, bad angles, bad play design, choosing the right players for certain situations, etc..........

            consistently losing close games is usually about the coaching...... sometimes the QB if you have a bad QB......

            super talented teams with good coaching dont have many close games..... unless its against another well coached talented team

            average talented teams with great coaching find a way to squeak out those close games.....well coached teams dont turn ball over much, donator commit as many penalties or get caught as much.... and have better ST's......they do all the little things better....

            Badly coached teams with good talent tend to play close but still find ways to lose..... especially different ways to lose every week..... remember even when Rivers had games with not turnovers, we still found other ways to lose..... I think Rivers has always made chargers look like we had more talent than we had..... LT and gates were special but most of the rest were average at best......

            badly talented teams lose baldly most weeks...... basely talented but with great coaching, tend to play hard and win a few games when unexpected, through effort.....
            George Stewart has yet to be fired. In his three years on the job - special teams have gotten worse not better. Lynn said he was going to look at everything.

            I agree about coaching. Rivers has played for pretty average coaches. Kyle Shanahan has proven to be outstanding. Chargers picked McCoy when Arians wanted the job. Reid I think wanted San Diego as he has a home in the area but of course, the Spanii were too cheap.

            Say what you want about Marty and Andy in the playoffs - but you have to get their and those two coaches got their team to the playoffs. Telesco is 2 for 7 with getting to the playoffs. thats 28.6%. That stinks.

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            • chargeroo
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              #18
              Originally posted by Charge! View Post

              Talent is key but its is coaching that helps a team be prepared, disciplined, make fewer mental errors, penalties, turnovers, bad game day decisions, bad angles, bad play design, choosing the right players for certain situations, etc..........

              consistently losing close games is usually about the coaching...... sometimes the QB if you have a bad QB......

              super talented teams with good coaching dont have many close games..... unless its against another well coached talented team

              average talented teams with great coaching find a way to squeak out those close games.....well coached teams dont turn ball over much, donator commit as many penalties or get caught as much.... and have better ST's......they do all the little things better....

              Badly coached teams with good talent tend to play close but still find ways to lose..... especially different ways to lose every week..... remember even when Rivers had games with not turnovers, we still found other ways to lose..... I think Rivers has always made chargers look like we had more talent than we had..... LT and gates were special but most of the rest were average at best......

              badly talented teams lose baldly most weeks...... basely talented but with great coaching, tend to play hard and win a few games when unexpected, through effort.....
              We had the same coach in 2018 when we won those one score games. Something more to it than the coach. This coach knows how to win (see 2018). For instance expecting the RB to be able to run the ball in from the one is reasonable - that's not poor coaching - it's poor run blocking.
              THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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              • foreigner
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                #19
                That's the beauty of the NFL, the difference is inches, just look at those two playing in the AFC Final, we had them, (But just couldnt finish the job).

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                • foreigner
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                  #20
                  Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

                  We had the same coach in 2018 when we won those one score games. Something more to it than the coach. This coach knows how to win (see 2018). For instance expecting the RB to be able to run the ball in from the one is reasonable - that's not poor coaching - it's poor run blocking.
                  A good coach is a good coach both in good times and bad times.. yeah he looks great when things go his way, but when they dont.... he likes to throw people under the bus and doesnt seem to adjust well also, that is not ok...

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                  • blueman
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                    #21
                    Originally posted by foreigner View Post
                    That's the beauty of the NFL, the difference is inches, just look at those two playing in the AFC Final, we had them, (But just couldnt finish the job).
                    Cuz? OL? QB? RB? All of the above? Even when we won 12, we had problems scoring in the red zone, issue goes back. Solution (IMHO) is some player changes.

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                    • NoMoreChillies
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                      #22
                      Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

                      How many games have the Chargers had with a game with no sacks? Almost every game the O-line has given up a sack for the last two years.
                      good point

                      i wonder how this is league wide. do good OL not give up any sacks at all?

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                      • chargeroo
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                        #23
                        Originally posted by foreigner View Post

                        A good coach is a good coach both in good times and bad times.. yeah he looks great when things go his way, but when they dont.... he likes to throw people under the bus and doesnt seem to adjust well also, that is not ok...
                        Please tell us - when did he ever throw someone under the bus?
                        THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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                        • RobH
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                          #24
                          Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

                          We had the same coach in 2018 when we won those one score games. Something more to it than the coach. This coach knows how to win (see 2018). For instance expecting the RB to be able to run the ball in from the one is reasonable - that's not poor coaching - it's poor run blocking.
                          Yes, but it’s the coaches that are supposed to teach those players the techniques to be successful, and that’s where we fall especially short in terms of ST and OL.

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