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[Topcat]

Spreading cap across a contract is one thing, teams can take the risks they want to take. But Cap is supposed to reflect the cost of the player over the time he’s on your team. Void years by definition are years he is not on the team. Spreading the cost of a player to multiple years after he’s long gone is in my view a form of accounting fraud - it is a stain on the NFL Shield I will not be swayed from my campaign to rid this great sport of this illicit plague

It is kind of weird paying someone years after they're gone...but...the way a lot of these players spend money like there's no tomorrow, maybe it's not so bad to set up a void year bonus account as they ease into retirement...

[Bolt4Knob]

Topcat - the player isn't getting money in the void years -- they have already been paid. It strictly is a transaction to push cap out into the future. The idea being that with the cap increasing yearly, a team can absorb higher cap salaries in future years. Or they take the attitude - we will figure it out when the time comes.

[Topcat]

Topcat - the player isn't getting money in the void years -- they have already been paid. It strictly is a transaction to push cap out into the future. The idea being that with the cap increasing yearly, a team can absorb higher cap salaries in future years. Or they take the attitude - we will figure it out when the time comes.

Okay, well that's weird...kind of like the g********t raising the debt ceiling every year, right?

[Bolt4Knob]

Okay, well that's weird...kind of like the g********t raising the debt ceiling every year, right?

Raising the cap is different than raising the debt ceiling. Not wanting to get *******al about the debt ceiling so not discussing that. But the NFL can raise the cap because they are revenue driven. When covid came through, and they lost revenue, the cap actually dropped. So with the expectations of TV deals, more games streaming, international games - revenues continue to rise, thereby the cap rises. Now, if those revenue streams dry up, the cap will reflect that.

[dmac_bolt]

It is kind of weird paying someone years after they're gone...but...the way a lot of these players spend money like there's no tomorrow, maybe it's not so bad to set up a void year bonus account as they ease into retirement...

I don’t think they are really paying them after they’re gone, i thought its money they already got paid when they were there.

[dmac_bolt]

Raising the cap is different than raising the debt ceiling. Not wanting to get *******al about the debt ceiling so not discussing that. But the NFL can raise the cap because they are revenue driven. When covid came through, and they lost revenue, the cap actually dropped. So with the expectations of TV deals, more games streaming, international games - revenues continue to rise, thereby the cap rises. Now, if those revenue streams dry up, the cap will reflect that.

Agree - The actual cap amount each team can spend is different then whether they can use phantom void years or not to pretend they spent less than they really did. Some can argue that after a team does it 2, 3, 4 years, it’s just a rolling bill due each year that balances out. But in any given year, teams can and do cheat on their cap limit via this fakery. Joe by nature doesn’t do it - or hasn’t yet.

I think its absurdly invalid accounting just as a concept.

[Topcat]

I don’t think they are really paying them after they’re gone, i thought its money they already got paid when they were there.

Okay, I guess Knob clarified it...though I keep seeing references to this:

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Knob, can you explain how Cousins's deal worked with void year?

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[Topcat]

Bad news for Chefs...now they're REALLY in cap hell:

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https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/chiefs-dealt-5-5m-blow-104516810.html?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

[Xenos]

This is beyond crazy money 🤯

[Boltjolt]

This is beyond crazy money 🤯

42 mil APY for a WR is crazy. At what point do fans stop paying for season tickets as they keep going up?

[Xenos]

42 mil APY for a WR is crazy. At what point do fans stop paying for season tickets as they keep going up?

To be fair, almost all of the NFL revenue stream comes from tv deals these days. I think them rising ticket prices is just an excuse to make more money.

[Riverwalk]

This is beyond crazy money 🤯

Wow…..Think of the contract Puka is going to demand from the Rams. He is on the final year of his rookie contract. How would you like to be his agent!!

Yep….he was drafted in the 5th round when QJ was drafted in the first round.

I spit out some coffee this morning when I saw his name on the list of Telesco’s great draftees. 😂