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[Topcat]

Here’s hoping HH is reasonable in his demands. I think having another weapon can only help Herbert.

If HH is smart, he'll lower his base salary demand a bit, but have his agent negotiate some nice incentives--catches, yards, etc. Herbie will make HH look good--better than 90% of the other QB's out there...

[Boltjolt]

14-15 millions, it could be the cost of 3 TEs

I mean I think they can sign him for less than that. He wants to be here.

[21&500]

I heard trent williams will be testing FA

[Boltgang74]

I heard trent williams will be testing FA

Cut some of our fat and sign TW,draft a RT with possibility of moving to LT later,C,RG.Then next draft grab a LT to learn under TW and maybe another G.Boom!Herbert stays standing and completing bomb after bomb for the MVP title and a Lombardi!!

[UglyTruth]

Mike Reiss, ESPN Patriots Insider, projects Hunter Henry's price to be $14-15 million per year.

Wait what? Darren Waller barely makes $7M/yr and this dumbass Patriots insider thinks Henry will get double that amount?

[wu-dai clan]

Wait what? Darren Waller barely makes $7M/yr and this dumbass Patriots insider thinks Henry will get double that amount?

Good point.
Waller is grossly underpaid.
The unknown is the market for Henry.

Reiss is actually very good. His angle is that this alleged price of $12-13 mil/yr would be too high for NE.
"He's not that good."
"There are legitimate injury concerns."
(The same types of comments we hear.)

Reiss expects HH to become the third highest paid TE in football.

I actually think HH is a ++ blocker and route runner...a good combo to have. We all saw BB brown nose HH at the end of 45-0. Hmmm.

Again I am seeing mid round inline and movement TEs that should be in play for us in this draft.

TT surely has HH on the front burner, but we fans get to fidget with the cap too. Our defensive backfield will get gutted if we don't kick down the cash.

[Bolt4Knob]

Good point.
Waller is grossly underpaid.
The unknown is the market for Henry.

Reiss is actually very good. His angle is that this alleged price of $12-13 mil/yr would be too high for NE.
"He's not that good."
"There are legitimate injury concerns."
(The same types of comments we hear.)

Reiss expects HH to become the third highest paid TE in football.

I actually think HH is a ++ blocker and route runner...a good combo to have. We all saw BB brown nose HH at the end of 45-0. Hmmm.

Again I am seeing mid round inline and movement TEs that should be in play for us in this draft.

TT surely has HH on the front burner, but we fans get to fidget with the cap too. Our defensive backfield will get gutted if we don't kick down the cash.

I don't think HH gets that much money but if he is wanting that much - let him test the market

Mike Davis is actually the highest priority to me

Hopefully Hunter and the team make a good solid deal - reasonable.

[WindsorUK]

Cut some of our fat and sign TW,draft a RT with possibility of moving to LT later,C,RG.Then next draft grab a LT to learn under TW and maybe another G.Boom!Herbert stays standing and completing bomb after bomb for the MVP title and a Lombardi!!

I'm thinking the same thing but maybe drafting Slater at 13, if he's graded higher? Put him next to TW, and use Turner's money on Linsley.
Then you use your #2 on the highest rated T on the board, whether it be Cosmi, Darrisaw, Carman, Eichenberg, Smith, Mayfield, Little, etc.( again, whoever the Bolts have highest on their board) and put him at RT.
Re-sign Lamp or Feeney to be your RG. SIgn Tevi as your swing Tackle.

[Boltgang74]

Man this better be a trenchers draft aside from possibly a passrusher and or CB.TT has got to succeed at building the lines or go the hell away finally.

[Boltjolt]

Some Dolphins players not confident in Tua

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...SPM-16-10abi8e


Dolphins players not confident in Tua Tagovailoa's quarterbacking abilities, per report

Many Miami players saw Tagovailoa as an inferior quarterback to Ryan Fitzpatrick

By Gabriel Fernandez

2 hrs ago3 min read
The Miami Dolphins are coming off just their second winning record in 12 seasons in just the second year of the Brian Flores-era, ending with a 10-6 record but ultimately missing out on the playoffs. While there are certainly plenty of positive takeaways from this past year, there are also plenty of places for criticism, some of which is directed at rookie quarterback Tue Tagovailoa, according to a recent report from the Miami Herald.

The report in question cites three unnamed players expressing their concerns over whether the former first-round draft pick is the right man for the job. One player basically said as much when it was revealed that the 22-year-old would be the starter next season.

"I understand what they said," one player told the Herald. "But I don't understand why."

The players made sure to clarify that they haven't quite given up on their young teammate -- "they remain hopeful Tagovailoa will improve," is what the Herald story says -- but the commentary from the anonymous group shows that there isn't a lot of confidence in how he stacks up to some of the best quarterbacks in the league.

From the Herald report:

"But the concerning thing to the players who spoke to the Herald is they are not convinced Tagovailoa is going to be great in the future.

They said they were unimpressed by Tagovailoa during training camp to the point they thought he wouldn't be ready to play in 2020. They said they were 'caught totally off guard,' as one put it, when Tagovailoa was named the starter the seventh game of the season.

And another said that before the season finale when players were informed by Flores that Ryan Fitzpatrick would not be available against the Buffalo Bills, he was disappointed because he believes Fitzpatrick was better than Tagovailoa."

It's not an ideal situation. Concerns were expressed over the ex-Alabama prospect's quarterbacking talents beyond his accuracy -- which isn't a terrible skill to have, for what it's worth -- and the ceiling is being set very high for the QB by teammates:

"One defensive player said he isn't impressed with Tagovailoa's ball velocity or arm strength or ability to make off-schedule plays with his legs. So he ultimately questions whether Tagovailoa will ever be able to match the feats of other quarterbacks in the AFC such as Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson.

'Those are the boys we got to beat, right?' this player said. 'It looks right now like that's going to be a big challenge.'"

Josh Allen set multiple franchise records this season, Patrick Mahomes can already boast an MVP award and Super Bowl at just 25 years old and Deshaun Watson is one of the most electrifying players in the sport in spite of the Texans' front office appearing to actively make life more difficult for him on the field. That's a tall task for anyone, including Tagovailoa, to live up to as a rookie.

At the same time, there are some more rational criticisms of the 22-year-old, as one offensive player told the Herald that Ryan Fitzpatrick -- who was at one point benched for, and brought back on to replace, the rookie this season -- just straight up looked better than Tagovailoa did in practice. It was even at the point where he was "frustrated" Fitzpatrick wasn't available to play in the season finale, a 56-26 loss to the aforementioned Allen's Bills.

Ultimately these concerns from teammates only hold so much weight, as the unnamed players are not the ones making the decisions. As far as people in those roles are concerned, Tua will be Miami's man next year.

"I think Tua has made a lot of improvement, really developed over the course of the year, so we'll just continue to try to make those improvements," Flores said.

[Steve]

Uh.....NO!
Too many pass catching TE's out there to spend so much on one.

No there aren't.

The FA list for TE is

Henry - 60 for 613 yds and 4 TD
Gronk - 45 catches for 623 yards and 7 TD
Jared Cook - 37 catches for 504 yards and 7 TF
Greg Olson
Tyler Kroft
Jason Witten
Jacob Hollister
Virgil Green

Henry is probably not going to get $14 mill +. Last year the best FA TE was Austin Hooper for the Falcons, who the Browns threw stupid money at. This year, teams have less cap room, and Henry didn't stay as healthy as he needed.

We may let him go, but that is mostly because the contract thing is tricky. He is not worth franchising again. That boosts his contract to $12 mill + (120% of this years deal for using the franchise tag on him 2 years in a row). That is a bit steep. Not, awful, but kinda high given that he plays about 75% of our snaps in a good year. OTC ranks his value at $9.7 mill, so something in the $10 mill per year for a long term deal would be fine, although it would need some injury protections and such. His production is just not high enough to warrant anything more. The catch is, if we don't tag him, he will probably test the market and then there is a chance someone throws stupid money at him, although after 2020, the cap should be down enough to prevent too much of that.

Parham is too thin and linear to be much of a blocker. He also has a long, long way to go as a blocker, even if he is going to be more of a Antonio Gates type of flex TE (read not an inline TE). If we let Henry go, we still need to find a real (inline) TE to put next to the OT, or we will never be able to run offtackle or offsides well, and if there is a shortage of pass catching guys, there is an even bigger lack of blocking TE. Not the guys who line up at TE and whiff for teams (there are a lot of guys who do that), but the guys who can really block.

[Steve]

I heard trent williams will be testing FA

There is a reason for that. He did not play well this year. He is still at the point where he might bounce back, but given teh lack of FA depth at OL, and the way most teams OL play was dreadful this season, I would expect people will still throw stupid money at OT.