Tom Telesco - State of The Chargers Address

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  • Topcat
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    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post

    I agree. I feel if we had the worst talented players on D half the forum would blame the coordinator instead of realizing it.

    Half our D is talented and half is questionable.

    King wasn't the same player this year, wondering if he was having personal problems?
    Bolts let Chris Peace go, and now he's with the Gnats. I thought he was worth keeping...solid pass rusher...

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

      Bolts let Chris Peace go, and now he's with the Gnats. I thought he was worth keeping...solid pass rusher...
      never understood keep Dzub and not releasing him and bringing him back but letting Peace go....

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      • powderblueboy
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        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

        never understood keep Dzub and not releasing him and bringing him back but letting Peace go....
        Dzoobie was just another guy on special teams last year. I don't remember a damn thing he did that was exceptional.

        At least he didn't commit any bone headed mistakes or penalties.

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        • powderblueboy
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          Originally posted by Critty View Post

          I think Tillery can make a big jump in year 2.
          Not so sure about JJ. Think he is a good rotation type player. Beach's fav D.Brown at #6 would be a very useful player to add. Just think Lions take him at #3.
          The JJ at the end of year 1 was looking promising. He lost a lot of weight - getting rid of fatty meats from his diet - during the off-season and tried to transition into a different type of player, possibly using different techniques. He looked great in training camp, but then had to go up against solid NFL interiors.

          Curious at what weight he comes to camp next year.
          Last edited by powderblueboy; 01-11-2020, 12:11 PM.

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          • powderblueboy
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            Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post

            I agree. I feel if we had the worst talented players on D half the forum would blame the coordinator instead of realizing it.

            Half our D is talented and half is questionable.

            King wasn't the same player this year, wondering if he was having personal problems?
            Who are the questionable players? The D was average once James/Phillips returned.

            Sometimes players don't fit what the coach wants; sometimes they are jerked around. The Patriots always maximize their talent.

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            • ChargingBolts
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              Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

              Who are the questionable players? The D was average once James/Phillips returned.

              Sometimes players don't fit what the coach wants; sometimes they are jerked around. The Patriots always maximize their talent.
              The only one's I don't question are Derwin, Casey, Joey, Ingram, Drue. 5 I trust 6 I'm not so sure.

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              • Topcat
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                Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

                Dzoobie was just another guy on special teams last year. I don't remember a damn thing he did that was exceptional.

                At least he didn't commit any bone headed mistakes or penalties.
                Dzoobie did whiff on tackles a few times...wait a minute, he's so slow, he didn't usually even get CLOSE ENOUGH to whiff...

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                • blueman
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                  Yeah, but he thought about it.

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                  • Sb4Rivers
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                    The biggest area for upgrades the last 4 years were OL and DT. We were 12-4, if TT had pulled the trigger on Sue we could have had a shot. We had all the skilled player needed on Offense. The last 4 drafts should have been used to got best OLine & LB. We had plenty of Trade material to make some moves in the draft.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      SOTC: One Fan's Essay

                      In his State of the Chargers presser, TT shared with us his Indianapolis allegory.
                      It took many years to establish a Colts fan base in Indy. What does this mean for LAC ? It changes everything.

                      We have presumed that there exists an urgency to fix the Oline in time for Rivers,
                      and to have a winning team going forward with the move into SoFi. What is now clear, is that this will be a slower, more methodical "build on the run."

                      TT spoke of having the base of the pyramid in place, culture, foundation, and Head Coach. We have a core of young players growing into leadership roles. The sign of getting to a level of consistently competing for Super Bowl victories is having a broader group of 2, 3, 4 & 5 year players as stars and leaders. That will take time.

                      We will try to retain our own, draft well, then look at UFAs who can help us win.
                      Depth will be built across the position groups. We see players such as Thomas Davis and Brandon Mebane here to help mentor and keep the build going.

                      "It's the Oline, stupid !" That is the mantra of all Charger fans. However, improvement will play out in a different manner than fans want it to.
                      Oline is but one position group. Complementary football.

                      TT made numerous comments @ SOTC signaling where we are going at Oline. He admitted that some things up front need to be fixed, but it isn't all bad.

                      When asked about Tevi, TT said he is talented enough to start in this league. When asked about Okung, TT said we will see how Russell comes back. He did not say if Russell comes back. Look for an extension for Okung half way thru camp.

                      Pouncey's tremendous leadership is crucial to making the Oline work. The doctors will provide an assessment soon. Mike will get short contracts until he is done.

                      If you do not think that Okung, Tevi and Pipkins are our front three at OT going forward, then you have another think coming. The problem that needs to be fixed is at IOL.

                      Furthermore, I remind you that the Chargers could have already done everything fans want them to do now last year, and the Chargers elected not to do it.

                      If you remember, we were interested in Jonah Williams, Andre Dillard in round 1. We passed on all the others, because of scheme fit. Then Pipkens was selected in round 3. We have our OT, and he got snaps in 2019. Now, OT is NOT a PON !!

                      TT elaborated further. He said we had the money to do what we wanted last off season. TT did not want to invest in UFA Olinemen. Fact.

                      In the 2020 draft, Andrew Thomas and Austin Jackson are the two tackles that fit. If WAS does not take Thomas, NYG will. Six is too early for Jackson. We will go in a different direction.

                      Pouncey's situation is potentially the problematic one. There must be leadership at Center. Qberry is a depth piece at Center and Guard, but not our alpha dog Center of the future.

                      We will draft our Center of the future, as that is what needs to be fixed up front.

                      Build the defense early in the 2020 draft, and then get some weapons, as the draft is deep at WR, RB.

                      Finally, the big one. I would like to move on from PR, but here's my guess. TT will sign Phil to a two year contract on March 10. It will be front loaded so as to allow the club to opt out after year one, and to create flexibility and cap room for Joey.
                      Last edited by wu-dai clan; 01-12-2020, 05:45 PM.
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        Disagree. OT is a position of need. Okung may or may not play, Tevi regardless of what TT says, should be moved inside. He is starting for our team, don't think he would start on many others.
                        Certainly Scott should be moved inside or just cut. Pip is still a WIP. Never hurts to have good OTs and Rivers was harassed a lot without good ones.

                        iOL still stinks but moving Tevi inside should help as well as getting Lamp back. Pouncey is a leader, but not the player we hoped.
                        Last edited by Boltjolt; 01-12-2020, 06:32 PM.

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                        • blueman
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                          So we may have those IOL guys already, just playing wrong position. Interesting, usually it’s the other way around, lol.

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