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  • Panama
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    Originally posted by Yubaking View Post
    Like I said, the demand has to be reasonable.

    Playing a rostered WR for one series a game at his designated position is not unreasonable.
    Anything that constitutes a player demand for playing time is unreasonable. I might be willing to turn a deaf ear when it's Randy Moss in his prime, but Kassim fuckin' Osgood??? No way!
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    • Panama
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      Originally posted by Yubaking View Post
      And one can fairly argue that he did earn one series a game at WR by being the best ST player in the league. It sends the message that if you are the best in the league at something, you get bonus consideration. That's a good message.
      No reasonable person could make that argument and keep a straight face.
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      • richpjr
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        Originally posted by Yubaking View Post
        He was an NFL caliber WR. He was just a low ranking NFL caliber WR. He did earn the series by being the best in the whole league at ST. It's called giving something extra to a guy who is the best in the league at something.
        So you would deliberately handicap the team for a series or two by putting a horrible receiver out there "just cause"? Even a coach as bad as Norv could see you don't do that. And there is a reason he hasn't played at WR for any other teams he has been with since us - he sucks.

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        • Boltx
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          I distinctly remember a game in 2004 at home against the Saints in which Osgood caught a ball and just stiff-armed a dude to the ground to get in for a TD. At the time it looked like he was actually primed to become a legit WR. Never happened.
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          • TTK
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            Osgood couldn't crack the lineup as a WR for the Jacksonville Jaguars. THE JAGUARS.

            Think about that. He ain't a NFL WR.

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            • Yubaking
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              Originally posted by sandiego17 View Post
              He overestimated his ability and became a journeyman. Definitely missed him on special teams, but come on, you don't give in to playing time demands, that's just sad. Sproles was given two straight franchise tags, one of the most curious decisions AJ ever made. If they were gong to earmark that kind of guaranteed money to Sproles, could have signed him for 4 or 5 years. Sproles is a stud, always liked that guy, played hard, played well, did what was asked of him. The announcers yesterday said Sproles texted Rivers about the 'new 43' on the Bolts, that's great.
              Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think you guys are right about Osgood and not giving in to his WR playing time demands. We did miss him on ST in 2010, though. Of course, we were also missing Binn in a big way too until we came across Windt.

              I think Woodhead is the best receiving RB we have had since Sproles, but I would still take Sproles over him. I really like what Oliver has to offer as a receiver. I think with Woodhead out, he is the best receiving RB we have because he can take short passes and get first downs and he is a threat to turn a short pass into a big gain. He is a different kind of runner than Mathews, but I do not think he is necessarily a better runner than Mathews. If we can get our guys back, I think we are going to be looking good at RB.

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              • blueman
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                Originally posted by Boltx View Post
                I distinctly remember a game in 2004 at home against the Saints in which Osgood caught a ball and just stiff-armed a dude to the ground to get in for a TD. At the time it looked like he was actually primed to become a legit WR. Never happened.
                I remember that too, was pumped to see more of the same, then... nada. Kinda like Tutu as a WR, just where the eff is he?? I guess some dudes are great STers, the end.

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                • Panamamike
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                  Originally posted by Yubaking View Post
                  How did our ST do without him in 2010 when we had arguably the worst STs of all time? You think a division title instead of sitting home during the playoffs would not have been worth one series a game at WR?! To say the very least, I disagree with your thinking on this point.

                  His WR career is irrelevant to the discussion. Anything at WR would have been gravy. Duh.
                  You actually believing a very good ST gunner is the reason we didn't make the playoffs sums up your lack of football knowledge quite well. The ST UNIT was a disaster, much of which stemmed from the long snapper injuries. One gunner isn't the make or break on that season. Not even close. One gunner on ST??????? Ridiculous.

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                  • Panamamike
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                    Originally posted by TTK View Post
                    Osgood couldn't crack the lineup as a WR for the Jacksonville Jaguars. THE JAGUARS.

                    Think about that. He ain't a NFL WR.
                    Amen.

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                    • floydefisher
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                      Originally posted by SFW View Post
                      What is mind boggling to me is how 5 professional NFL head coaches can be so ignorant and play right into the Chargers hands when their mistake is so obvious that an internet poster (such as yourself) can see exactly what they should be doing. How can 100% of the coaches that have played against us this year all be wrong? And to think one of those coaches is a SB champion HC.
                      Here's what Yuba is missing.

                      If teams simply ran the ball like that, the Chargers would simply put all 11 men close to the line of scrimmage, thus negating any advantage in running the ball.

                      In other words, it would work about as often as the Raiders win football games these days.
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                      • Panamamike
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                        Originally posted by sandiego17 View Post
                        He overestimated his ability and became a journeyman. Definitely missed him on special teams, but come on, you don't give in to playing time demands, that's just sad. Sproles was given two straight franchise tags, one of the most curious decisions AJ ever made. If they were gong to earmark that kind of guaranteed money to Sproles, could have signed him for 4 or 5 years. Sproles is a stud, always liked that guy, played hard, played well, did what was asked of him. The announcers yesterday said Sproles texted Rivers about the 'new 43' on the Bolts, that's great.
                        Agree on Sproles. The franchise tag at RB was BIG. One year ok. If AJ couldn't sign him long term, then you trade him. The second franchise tag was a poor allocation of resources.

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                        • Mister Hoarse
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                          Originally posted by Panama View Post
                          Our ST were historically bad that year BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH A ZILLION AND ONE LONG SNAPPERS!!!

                          And yeah, no player is bigger than the team, I don't give a fuck how good a special teamer he is. Last I checked, this isn't the NBA and football is still a team game.
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