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Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA - Discussion
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Originally posted by chargeroo View Post
I wasn't crazy about Gordon college but I liked Joshua Kelley in college. Barring serious injury I think he'll be a steal. He has some quicks, good speed (4:49), has really big thighs making it nearly impossible to tackle him around the thighs and good at blitz pickup. I thought he impressive at the Senior Bowl - both practice and game. With two good backs in front of him I don't know how much pt he'll get as a rookie but long run I think he'll be a solid RB for us. I was right about Gordon and I hope I'm right about Kelley.5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Every time we had Watt and Gordon in there, we were telegraphing, "we're going to run the rock." Maybe it might help if we ran more passing plays with two rb's in there, at least on occasion. That would be at least an attempt to fool someone sometimes...
A lot of great (read SB winning) coaches prefer to have clearly defined intentions. They out execute a team on the predictible plays, and force defenses to sell out tilting their defense to totally take away the clearly defined intention, then hit them with some complimentary plays.
At some point, the take what the defense gives you means that they are allowing the offense to play the game the defense wants. The offense needs to impose it's will at some point, and make them react to what the offense is doing. Until our O gets to that point, we will continue to be a 2nd rate team.
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Originally posted by Steve View Post
Why is telegraphing an intention necessarily a bad thing?
A lot of great (read SB winning) coaches prefer to have clearly defined intentions. They out execute a team on the predictible plays, and force defenses to sell out tilting their defense to totally take away the clearly defined intention, then hit them with some complimentary plays.
At some point, the take what the defense gives you means that they are allowing the offense to play the game the defense wants. The offense needs to impose it's will at some point, and make them react to what the offense is doing. Until our O gets to that point, we will continue to be a 2nd rate team.
THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!
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What Steve is referencing is Marty Ball, and the Chargers used to employ it to great success. Marty's philosophy was to be so good at certain plays that they were unstoppable for the reasons Steve listed. You out execute the other team, you dominate them, you impose your will. He didn't care if the other team's DC knew the play that the offense was going to run, the defensive players knew it, the announcers knew it, the fans knew it. He cared that despite knowing it, you couldn't stop it. His entire coaching career he relied upon a few plays and would run them over and over and over. They were primarily running plays which is why some thought Marty Ball was just a conservative run offense.
TGLike, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
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I liked Marty. He really knew the players game and could coach any position. I used to watch him in camp working with a player, showing exactly what he wanted from them on a given play.
I liked that he found plays they executed well, made them better and let them take pride in their work.
40 Power and kiss my happy ass.
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Originally posted by chargeroo View PostI think what you are describing is exactly the type of offense Lynn wants to be able to run.
I think everyone would agree that being both predictable and effective is preferred over having to
trick your opponent.
imo it really comes down to a (or several) players' unique abilityP1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Matlock
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This conversation brings back the bad memory of the Steelers (Jerome Bettis) running it down our throats to end that playoff game. Everyone knew what was coming but they couldn't stop it - give me some of that from our Bolts!
By the way, Marty is my favorite HC thus far.THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!
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Originally posted by chargeroo View PostThis conversation brings back the bad memory of the Steelers (Jerome Bettis) running it down our throats to end that playoff game. Everyone knew what was coming but they couldn't stop it - give me some of that from our Bolts!
By the way, Marty is my favorite HC thus far.
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
Are you sure that wasn't Shon Green in the playoffs...same year. Both the Steelers and Jets went for it on 4rth & 1 at the end of the game in 2009.
LT could do that but we have to go all the way back to Butts (with a good OL in front of him) to find a back that could do that. That's a long time ago. Part of doing that also depends on the HC. LT played for Marty, Butts for Bobby Ross - both were hard nosed kind of coaches I think Lynn is that kind of HC too - time will tell.THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!
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