2022 Official Bolts Draft Superthread

[equivocation]

Hey all back for the draft after that heartbreaking season...

Jordan Davis is nothing like Jamal Williams. Williams was big and strong but also twitchy, bendy, explosive, violent, and disruptive. Remember he came in as a 3T before getting bigger. Davis is none of these.

The number one thing I look for in DL play, interior or edge, is 'who moves first?' Williams was often the first person on the line to move. Davis is usually the last person on either line to move.

The player comparable to Williams in the NFL right now is Vita Vea. Big but also super quick and athletic with an agressive streak.

Davis just isn't quick which hurts in run D as well as pass rush. First to move gets position. He's just not going to "out big" NFL OL like he can in college.

I can see why people like him. His combo of size and athleticism is rare. But he's probably never going to be fast off the line so he needs to be super technical with his hands and leverage and he's not close to there yet. Teams will have to be patient while building his technique (which obviously can be done). His upside is more like "faster Ted Washington" than Jamal. His downside is also big though, aka out of the league in 4 years.

Every time I watch Georgia I'm more impressed by both Devonte Wyatt (who does remind me of Jamal if he puts on more muscle) and Travon Walker (not a great edge rusher yet but a GREAT run defender at the edge and an athletic freak with 100% hustle and effort and a nose for the ball).

Our edge run defense was worse than our interior run defense.

[powderblueboy]

Hey all back for the draft after that heartbreaking season...

Jordan Davis is nothing like Jamal Williams. Williams was big and strong but also twitchy, bendy, explosive, violent, and disruptive. Remember he came in as a 3T before getting bigger. Davis is none of these.

The number one thing I look for in DL play, interior or edge, is 'who moves first?' Williams was often the first person on the line to move. Davis is usually the last person on either line to move.

The player comparable to Williams in the NFL right now is Vita Vea. Big but also super quick and athletic with an agressive streak.

Davis just isn't quick which hurts in run D as well as pass rush. First to move gets position. He's just not going to "out big" NFL OL like he can in college.

I can see why people like him. His combo of size and athleticism is rare. But he's probably never going to be fast off the line so he needs to be super technical with his hands and leverage and he's not close to there yet. Teams will have to be patient while building his technique (which obviously can be done). His upside is more like "faster Ted Washington" than Jamal. His downside is also big though, aka out of the league in 4 years.

Every time I watch Georgia I'm more impressed by both Devonte Wyatt (who does remind me of Jamal if he puts on more muscle) and Travon Walker (not a great edge rusher yet but a GREAT run defender at the edge and an athletic freak with 100% hustle and effort and a nose for the ball).

Our edge run defense was worse than our interior run defense.

I see Davis beat pulling guards to spots, so he can get off at times. He's not consistent about it, and that might have to do with conditioning or confusion.

I like Wyatt, but not at #17. I don't love him.

Walker is growing on me...he does seem to be quick twitched when he wants, and a lot of Georgia's defensive concepts don't allow him to tee-off from outside.
He plays a very disciplined role when pass rushing.

[Caslon]

TT will ultimately be judged by his FA acquisitions this year. Noone foresaw the Forrest Gump pick outcome.

[wu-dai clan]

Meanwhile Travis Jones,
available in round 2,
has dedicated himself to conditioning.

[equivocation]

I see Davis beat pulling guards to spots, so he can get off at times. He's not consistent about it, and that might have to do with conditioning or confusion.

I like Wyatt, but not at #17. I don't love him.

Walker is growing on me...he does seem to be quick twitched when he wants, and a lot of Georgia's defensive concepts don't allow him to tee-off from outside.
He plays a very disciplined role when pass rushing.

I agree Davis SOMETIMES has a great get off. About 75% of the time he is last to move and he only played 35% of snaps this year. It's what makes him hard to evaluate. He'll need a lot of work but he is a physical freak. His frame can hold even more weight, easily.

Wyatt and Mathis are both good values in the 2nd. Paired with a FA signing like Joseph-Day and bringing back Jones we have a good IDL group at that point. Tillery becomes the 4th option/pass rush specialist.

Walker is another freak. 275 lbs of contained violence. He plays a role very similar to what he would need to do here. But his videos either covering RBs or taking on double teams show him doing a lot of the dirty work good D needs. Not sure he is worth 17 either, but...

Walker is also a converted DT so he doesn't have the pass rush repetoire yet. 2 years in he may be a top pass rusher in the NFL. Dude is fast.

[dmac_bolt]

Meanwhile Travis Jones,
available in round 2,
has dedicated himself to conditioning.

Travis Jones or Phidarian Mathis in Rd2 would be excellent picks if they last to the high 40s? Thats a bet, not a guarantee. I like Jones, but sometimes small school guys need an extra year or two to adjust to NFL competition.

I’m not monogamous with Jordon Davis - I think he’s undersold here because he does what he needs to but not alot more every single play in college. But there are several elite inside DTs in the draft and I frankly don’t see elite level in FA unless I’m missing someone. The rare elite NT commands $10M+ In FA. I want to see a DL anchored with a true NT with elite athletic talent. LAC cannot become a line of scrimmage team without a line of scrimmage NT.

I agree CB needs a #1 and they were not as exposed as much as they could have been only because teams were able to run. KC2 and LV2 were both examples of pass coverage collapse when most critical and needed.

[equivocation]

Travis Jones or Phidarian Mathis in Rd2 would be excellent picks if they last to the high 40s? Thats a bet, not a guarantee. I like Jones, but sometimes small school guys need an extra year or two to adjust to NFL competition.

I’m not monogamous with Jordon Davis - I think he’s undersold here because he does what he needs to but not alot more every single play in college. But there are several elite inside DTs in the draft and I frankly don’t see elite level in FA unless I’m missing someone. The rare elite NT commands $10M+ In FA. I want to see a DL anchored with a true NT with elite athletic talent. LAC cannot become a line of scrimmage team without a line of scrimmage NT.

I agree CB needs a #1 and they were not as exposed as much as they could have been only because teams were able to run. KC2 and LV2 were both examples of pass coverage collapse when most critical and needed.

I don't have the same read on Davis at all. I think he's a fine prospect as an interior pass rusher. The big issue is inconsistency and either technique or conditioning or whatever causes his slow get off most of the time.

People saying he's a 2 down player aren't watching his film. But he only plays 35% of snaps and isn't consistent in those limited snaps. One's explanation of WHY that is may vary and that changes his evaluation. A guy with his absurd tools should be much more productive.

[wu-dai clan]

I agree Davis SOMETIMES has a great get off. About 75% of the time he is last to move and he only played 35% of snaps this year. It's what makes him hard to evaluate. He'll need a lot of work but he is a physical freak. His frame can hold even more weight, easily.

Wyatt and Mathis are both good values in the 2nd. Paired with a FA signing like Joseph-Day and bringing back Jones we have a good IDL group at that point. Tillery becomes the 4th option/pass rush specialist.

Walker is another freak. 275 lbs of contained violence. He plays a role very similar to what he would need to do here. But his videos either covering RBs or taking on double teams show him doing a lot of the dirty work good D needs. Not sure he is worth 17 either, but...

Walker is also a converted DT so he doesn't have the pass rush repetoire yet. 2 years in he may be a top pass rusher in the NFL. Dude is fast.

Good takes.
Good to see you back.
At #17 I want talent, skill.
WR is under consideration on my board.
Re Edge-setting run defender,
I wanna save that for later.
(~Jarrett Johnson at #17 ?
No. No. No.)

McCreary and Dax Hill interest me.
Are Webb or Gillman ready to give us some real impact ? CHJ is riding off into the sunset. I see #1 PON as being a highly skilled, athletic, Combo DB. Slot. Boundary. Two High. Sure tackler. Quick processor.

[Xenos]

The incoming rookie cb doesn't need to be a star; he just needs to be clearly better than Tevaughn Campbell, Trey Marshall & Chris Harris Jr. from this year.

I'm for bringing in a vet and a rookie, kind of like what i would like to see at DT.

I agree. I don’t think we can get a #1 in this draft unless we’re super lucky. A #2 that also provides depth would be nice.

[Xenos]

Hey all back for the draft after that heartbreaking season...

Jordan Davis is nothing like Jamal Williams. Williams was big and strong but also twitchy, bendy, explosive, violent, and disruptive. Remember he came in as a 3T before getting bigger. Davis is none of these.

The number one thing I look for in DL play, interior or edge, is 'who moves first?' Williams was often the first person on the line to move. Davis is usually the last person on either line to move.

The player comparable to Williams in the NFL right now is Vita Vea. Big but also super quick and athletic with an agressive streak.

Davis just isn't quick which hurts in run D as well as pass rush. First to move gets position. He's just not going to "out big" NFL OL like he can in college.

I can see why people like him. His combo of size and athleticism is rare. But he's probably never going to be fast off the line so he needs to be super technical with his hands and leverage and he's not close to there yet. Teams will have to be patient while building his technique (which obviously can be done). His upside is more like "faster Ted Washington" than Jamal. His downside is also big though, aka out of the league in 4 years.

Every time I watch Georgia I'm more impressed by both Devonte Wyatt (who does remind me of Jamal if he puts on more muscle) and Travon Walker (not a great edge rusher yet but a GREAT run defender at the edge and an athletic freak with 100% hustle and effort and a nose for the ball).

Our edge run defense was worse than our interior run defense.

Welcome back! Glad to have you here.

Brugler also agrees with you about Wyatt.

[wu-dai clan]

We must remember
JWall was such a jumbo unicorn.
Supplemental draft.
Lil' over 3 bills.
He ate his spinach.
Grew.
Last seen ragdolling Pro Bowl guards.

[ghost]

Hey all back for the draft after that heartbreaking season...

Jordan Davis is nothing like Jamal Williams. Williams was big and strong but also twitchy, bendy, explosive, violent, and disruptive. Remember he came in as a 3T before getting bigger. Davis is none of these.

The number one thing I look for in DL play, interior or edge, is 'who moves first?' Williams was often the first person on the line to move. Davis is usually the last person on either line to move.

The player comparable to Williams in the NFL right now is Vita Vea. Big but also super quick and athletic with an agressive streak.

Davis just isn't quick which hurts in run D as well as pass rush. First to move gets position. He's just not going to "out big" NFL OL like he can in college.

I can see why people like him. His combo of size and athleticism is rare. But he's probably never going to be fast off the line so he needs to be super technical with his hands and leverage and he's not close to there yet. Teams will have to be patient while building his technique (which obviously can be done). His upside is more like "faster Ted Washington" than Jamal. His downside is also big though, aka out of the league in 4 years.

Every time I watch Georgia I'm more impressed by both Devonte Wyatt (who does remind me of Jamal if he puts on more muscle) and Travon Walker (not a great edge rusher yet but a GREAT run defender at the edge and an athletic freak with 100% hustle and effort and a nose for the ball).

Our edge run defense was worse than our interior run defense.

Agree on Devonte Wyatt, is violent and can anchor, stack-and-shed, good use of hands, and played a dominant style, in a pro-system, in the SEC. I'm seeing him projected to Philadelphia couple picks ahead of the Chargers, so he's a legit 1st Rounder, but if a Corner or RT is there, is Wyatt as EDGE the choice?