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  • TexanBeerlover
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    #241
    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
    Darian Kinnard.... am about medium on him.... prolly take him ahead of Faalele, but not Zion Johnson.... just personal opinion,

    he's a mammoth RG/RT, who tops out @359, bottom figure @324, and generally is listed @345.... his compare is Brandon Scherff, and peoples are calling him a day one s******** w/plenty of upside.

    is there a question as to whether he fits our scheme ??
    Enamored with him, but don't want to reach. Chargers could trade down, add extra 2nd then select RT (Kinnard) of the future. He could go ahead of Penning when all said and done. He has much better balance, bend and change of direction, plenty strong and long. In short, he should fit in the first round, just not #17.

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    • Boltinloudguy
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      #242
      Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
      Darian Kinnard.... am about medium on him.... prolly take him ahead of Faalele, but not Zion Johnson.... just personal opinion,

      he's a mammoth RG/RT, who tops out @359, bottom figure @324, and generally is listed @345.... his compare is Brandon Scherff, and peoples are calling him a day one s******** w/plenty of upside.

      is there a question as to whether he fits our scheme ??

      I personally like Kinnard as more of a G moving forward. But as of now my first 2 choices in the 1st are either

      OLB/DE Jermaine Johnson
      OLB/DE Travon Walker

      they are both relentless high motor guy and hard workers.

      1st- OLB/DE Jermaine Johnson
      2nd- ILB Chad Muma
      3rd - DT John Ridgeway
      4th- OT/G Cade Mays
      5th- RB Kennedy Brooks
      6th- CB Vincent Gray
      6th- S Bryan Cook
      7th- OT/G Blaise Andries
      7th- CB Jermaine Waller
      7th- WR Tanner Conner

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      • beachcomber
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        #243
        Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post


        I personally like Kinnard as more of a G moving forward. But as of now my first 2 choices in the 1st are either

        OLB/DE Jermaine Johnson
        OLB/DE Travon Walker

        they are both relentless high motor guy and hard workers.

        1st- OLB/DE Jermaine Johnson
        2nd- ILB Chad Muma
        3rd - DT John Ridgeway
        4th- OT/G Cade Mays
        5th- RB Kennedy Brooks
        6th- CB Vincent Gray
        6th- S Bryan Cook
        7th- OT/G Blaise Andries
        7th- CB Jermaine Waller
        7th- WR Tanner Conner
        'nloudguy.... just want to share an appreciation for bringing in names from beyond the usual pundit praised first rounders and better know day twoers.... good to have someone challenging the board w/names of day three guys and UDFAs, that some of, if not the most of us have yet to hear about.... good stuff and much appreciated, and....

        do like Johnson, albeit not sure he's a 17 overall, albeit again wouldn't be disappointed w/the either of him nor Zion Johnson that early.
        LB CJ Allen, LT Caleb Lomu, OC Parker Brailsford, RB Demond Claiborne, TE Justin Joly, NT Dontay Corleone,​​ OC Bryce Foster, CB Josh Moten, LB Eric Gentry

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        • beachcomber
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          #244
          Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post

          Enamored with him, but don't want to reach. Chargers could trade down, add extra 2nd then select RT (Kinnard) of the future. He could go ahead of Penning when all said and done. He has much better balance, bend and change of direction, plenty strong and long. In short, he should fit in the first round, just not #17.
          agree, as not sure he's not the better get over Penning, albeit would prolly stay away from the both of 'em, as am not positiion specific, and def think Zion Johnson makes our Oline the better than w/the either of the aforementioned, as again.... am not against sliding Feiler over to RT, where his PFF is just as good as @guard.
          LB CJ Allen, LT Caleb Lomu, OC Parker Brailsford, RB Demond Claiborne, TE Justin Joly, NT Dontay Corleone,​​ OC Bryce Foster, CB Josh Moten, LB Eric Gentry

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          • beachcomber
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            #245
            as mentioned before, am def in the Garrett Wilson camp @17, and if I get out the fine toothed comb, there are some hair splitting reasons why:

            WR Garrett Wilson * think the biggest knock against him is that he is slight of frame and could be more susceptible to injury in the NFL ?? not overly familiar w/his injury history in college, and looking @the bigger MW, obviously size is no guarantee for sustained health/availability in the League.

            WR Jameson Williams * consensus now is that an ACL tear isn't what it use to be, and.... he will be coming off injury, and.... def think I'd take the chance if Wilson is off the board, as not sure there is anyone that would open up our cannon @QB, like Jameson would.... it's Chargers football, and dude will be bringing it.

            LB Nakobe Dean * not only is he a tad undersized, but he worked behind that Georgia defensive line, and Jordan Davis in particular.... how would he fare behind Tillery and some of our backups ??

            CB Derek Stingley * not sold on his mindset, as wouldn't call him soft, but there is a lack of investment or the like to some degree, @least as some would lead you to believe, and.... sometimes a lack of vigilance/spatial awareness or the like, can lead to injuries, of which he's had several....

            NT Jordan Davis * great player, and do think you grade the man in the middle by his overall defense, and he def checks that box, and.... just not feeling it re: his intangibles.

            so, come end of the day/story, am looking for someone that sets the tone in the lockerroom and on the team, and really like the vibe that Wilson comes across with.... he's just a natural, and like Jerry West was called the Logo, can see Wilson have a lasting image/silhouette from his time in the league, similar to Cromartie's Peyton pick, MJ and others, who've been a bit transcendent w/their style of play.

            ps. do think the latter two will be off the board, and that it could perhaps come down to WR or LB.... def of intrigue as to which way team Tommy John feels best bolsters our SB run ??
            LB CJ Allen, LT Caleb Lomu, OC Parker Brailsford, RB Demond Claiborne, TE Justin Joly, NT Dontay Corleone,​​ OC Bryce Foster, CB Josh Moten, LB Eric Gentry

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            • Bolt Dude
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              #246
              Trevor Penning is a trouble maker. Like a gigantic Dennis the Menace.

              Our quarterback is a golden god.

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              • equivocation
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                #247
                Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post
                Trevor Penning is a trouble maker. Like a gigantic Dennis the Menace.

                Problem is he got his hands outside the frame on 3 of those clips.

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                • Bolt Dude
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by equivocation View Post

                  Problem is he got his hands outside the frame on 3 of those clips.
                  I honestly can’t tell if Senior Bowl week is helping or hurting his stock. I’m inclined to think it’s the latter.
                  Our quarterback is a golden god.

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                  • equivocation
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

                    I honestly can’t tell if Senior Bowl week is helping or hurting his stock. I’m inclined to think it’s the latter.
                    I can't tell either. He's emphasized both the good and bad traits. Saw someone say either his guy ends up on the ground or he ends up on the ground.

                    He has a nasty attitude and good athleticism. The technique can be improved. But he has to play under control on the OL. If he just wants to maul people go be a DT.

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                    • Boltinloudguy
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                      'nloudguy.... just want to share an appreciation for bringing in names from beyond the usual pundit praised first rounders and better know day twoers.... good to have someone challenging the board w/names of day three guys and UDFAs, that some of, if not the most of us have yet to hear about.... good stuff and much appreciated, and....

                      do like Johnson, albeit not sure he's a 17 overall, albeit again wouldn't be disappointed w/the either of him nor Zion Johnson that early.
                      Thanks Beach! As far as Johnson goes. He’s climbing up boards this week and I think he will continue to as the draft process plays out.
                      I loved reading how much more focused he has been since he has had his child this past year. This guy is motivated to be a great player in this league for his kid.

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                      • TexanBeerlover
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                        #251
                        Originally posted by equivocation View Post

                        Problem is he got his hands outside the frame on 3 of those clips.
                        He holds a lot then uses his strength to overpower with no regard for the whistle or human life. He is a penalty machine, maybe the next Richie Incognito (Raiders) who has played for numerous teams (Rams, Bills - twice and Dolphins). I was all for drafting him until Senior Bowl practices.

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                        • TexanBeerlover
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                          #252
                          One player who really has impressed me Senior Bowl practices (also shows in his tape) is Georgia DT DeVonte Wyatt. His style of play reminds me of Aaron Donald. PFF ranking #37 but I don't care. 89.7 overall grade in 2021. Very safe pick with positional value and dire need for Chargers.

                           

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