2023 Mock Draft Thread

[dmac_bolt]

More recent examples are the Cowboys selecting Ezekiel Elliot fourth overall in 2016, the Jaguars taking Leonard Fournette fourth overall in 2017, and the Giants picking Saquon Barkley second overall in 2018. I doubt any of those teams would have done that if they liked a player at a position with greater value, although Jalen Ramsey was sitting right there for the Cowboys. In hindsight the Giants should have taken Josh Allen, but very few thought he was the best quarterback in that draft, which is why he was the third passer taken.

I can't find many who believe there are five players better than Bijan Robinson in this draft. If he lasts to the 21st pick and Telesco doesn't take him I think we should all boycott until he gets fired.

See, thats the thing. That’s a common opinion - but is it true? They really didn’t like any other players on the Rd1 board so they wasted their Rd1 pick, 2nd overall, on a position of low value RB? How is that possible? There were great players on the board when Sequon was picked, including Josh Allen. But they still had Eli, and it appears they thought the key missing piece to really improve the team was an elite RB.

We have Herbie and at “power back” we have … Kelley, Spiller, Rountree … hmmm.

[Lone Bolt]

Someone, somewhere, posted this...shoulda quoted...

Essentially, Kincaid, Bijan, and Flowers are the only offensive skill players they would draft at 21. I tend to agree...though I would throw Njigba in there, were he to make it that far.

Flowers Im on the fence...but we could sorely use a vertical threat...and he does seperate from the rest of those types of receivers in this draft with his crazy YAC production, and his ability to work all three levels of the field, having an actual developed route tree...

Anybody else, as far as offensive "juice"...I would PREFER scooping them up after a trade back....

[Lone Bolt]

01) Carolina * QB Anthony Richardson * lone member of the big boy club among the faves here
02) Texans * QB Bryce Young * apparently they have their Lone Star hearts set on the Young’n
03) Az * ED Will Anderson * trade might not be as inevitable as some lead us to believe
04) Indy * QB CJ Stroud * early season more pedestrian than not reviews will catch up to him soon
05) Seattle * ED Lukas Van Ness * Carrol never afraid to be intrepid on draft day
06) Lions * ED Tyree Wilson * awful good pairing w/Hutchinson
07) Vegas * QB Hendon Hooker * tell me whatsa mattah w/this guy…. not too much me thinx
08) Atlanta * OT Broderick Jones * not even sure he’s a top five OT
09) Bears * OT Paris Johnson * looks the part and hopefully fills their hole there
10) Philly * DT Jalen Carter * makes sense, as their IDL always seems to be a priority
11) Titans * QB Will Levis * not as good as HH, and in danger of being Drew Lock good
12) Texans * WR Jaxon Smith Njigba * pretty much locked in here atm by the punditry @large
13) Pack * OT Peter Skoronski * for the if and when the trade is finally consummated
14) Pats * DB Brian Branch * not sure if he’s bpa here, and still a solid get for Mr. Bill
15) Pack * TE Michael Mayer * hope springs eternal, albeit def seems more of a Packer than DK
16) WashDC * CB Christian Gonzalez * not like Ron to be going defensive secondary over front 7
17) Steelers * CB Joey Porter Jr. * is he better than Devon Witherspoon
18) Lions * RB Bijan Robinson * universally loved by most fan bases
19) Bucs * OT Darnell Wright * has risen thru the ranks, but can he play LT for ‘em
20) Seattle * DT Calijah Kancey * who wouldn’t want to roll the dice on a possible Aaron Donald 2.0
21) Miami * forfeited
22) LAC * TE Dalton Kincaid * or are we gonna do our best to trade up to 17 (for a measly third rounder)
23) Ravens * WR Zay Flowers * need pick, which is uncharacteristic of DeCosta
24) Minny * DE Keion White * conspicuously invited to the green room by the League, and in lieu of QJ
25) Jax * TE Darnell Washington * do think he will round into a TE1, albeit in Pips like fashion
26) Giants * WR Jordan Addison * an answered prayer for the Gigantes
27) Dallas * ED Nolan Smith * do him and Parsons work (well) together
28) Bills * OC John Michael Schmitz * practical/responsible need pick
29) Cincy * OG O’Cyrus Torrence * gives ol’ Joe a little bit more room to operate
30) Saints * NT Mazi Smith * count me as surprised some if this transpires as such
31) Philly * RB Jahmyr Gibbs * not sure if he’s Bijanaise good, but he’s gonna be fun to keep track of
32) KC * TE Luke Musgrave * they don’t miss too very often

missed the cut >> CB Devon Witherspoon

denied access to the green room >> WR Quentin Johnston, ED Myles Murphy, DT Bryan Bresee, CB Cam Smith, WR Jalin Hyatt, CB Deonte Banks, CB Kelee Ringo, LB Drew Sanders, CB Clark Phillips, LB Jack Campbell

Nice commentary...good point on Keion. Where is Myles Murphy, though? Bresee also a surprise ommission...but I would be floored if Murphy slipped out of the first. I have La Porta well ahead of Musgrave...but I have never warmed to him...total projection...drops the ball too much....but Im just nitpickin'....fun stuff, Beach

[Boltgang74]

I honestly don't think Bijan lasts to #21, but if he does, TT should sprint up to the podium quicker than u can say "Marcus McNeill"...

I've seen a few pundit mocks have us trading up to grab Bijan.

[Lone Bolt]

I've seen Hendon Hooker mocked to the Raiders a number of times... but not at #7 overall.

Has HH shot up the charts *that* much?!?

Well....it IS the Raiders, lol....

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Once again, ahem, let's review the list of how many times TT has traded back:

1.
2.
3.

Clock is ticking...
(Highly doubtful it happens)

Trading back requires a trade back partner, and for all WE know, Telesco has been interested in trading back on occasion, but wasn't able to locate a team to dance with.

Likewise, maybe Telesco typically has identified the guy he wants when he's on the clock, and doesn't see five equal prospects, at least ONE of whom he would definitely have access to if he traded down a handful of spots.

So IMO, "He hasn't done it before" isn't an entirely persuasive argument. The circumstances involving the depth of this particular draft crop at the 21st pick may make trading down pretty much a no-brainer IF THE RIGHT TRADE PARTNER CAN BE FOUND.

So I'm 'Wait and See' on this particular issue.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

01) Carolina * QB Anthony Richardson * lone member of the big boy club among the faves here
02) Texans * QB Bryce Young * apparently they have their Lone Star hearts set on the Young’n
03) Az * ED Will Anderson * trade might not be as inevitable as some lead us to believe
04) Indy * QB CJ Stroud * early season more pedestrian than not reviews will catch up to him soon
05) Seattle * ED Lukas Van Ness * Carrol never afraid to be intrepid on draft day
06) Lions * ED Tyree Wilson * awful good pairing w/Hutchinson
07) Vegas * QB Hendon Hooker * tell me whatsa mattah w/this guy…. not too much me thinx
08) Atlanta * OT Broderick Jones * not even sure he’s a top five OT
09) Bears * OT Paris Johnson * looks the part and hopefully fills their hole there
10) Philly * DT Jalen Carter * makes sense, as their IDL always seems to be a priority
11) Titans * QB Will Levis * not as good as HH, and in danger of being Drew Lock good
12) Texans * WR Jaxon Smith Njigba * pretty much locked in here atm by the punditry @large
13) Pack * OT Peter Skoronski * for the if and when the trade is finally consummated
14) Pats * DB Brian Branch * not sure if he’s bpa here, and still a solid get for Mr. Bill
15) Pack * TE Michael Mayer * hope springs eternal, albeit def seems more of a Packer than DK
16) WashDC * CB Christian Gonzalez * not like Ron to be going defensive secondary over front 7
17) Steelers * CB Joey Porter Jr. * is he better than Devon Witherspoon
18) Lions * RB Bijan Robinson * universally loved by most fan bases
19) Bucs * OT Darnell Wright * has risen thru the ranks, but can he play LT for ‘em
20) Seattle * DT Calijah Kancey * who wouldn’t want to roll the dice on a possible Aaron Donald 2.0
21) Miami * forfeited
22) LAC * TE Dalton Kincaid * or are we gonna do our best to trade up to 17 (for a measly third rounder)
23) Ravens * WR Zay Flowers * need pick, which is uncharacteristic of DeCosta
24) Minny * DE Keion White * conspicuously invited to the green room by the League, and in lieu of QJ
25) Jax * TE Darnell Washington * do think he will round into a TE1, albeit in Pips like fashion
26) Giants * WR Jordan Addison * an answered prayer for the Gigantes
27) Dallas * ED Nolan Smith * do him and Parsons work (well) together
28) Bills * OC John Michael Schmitz * practical/responsible need pick
29) Cincy * OG O’Cyrus Torrence * gives ol’ Joe a little bit more room to operate
30) Saints * NT Mazi Smith * count me as surprised some if this transpires as such
31) Philly * RB Jahmyr Gibbs * not sure if he’s Bijanaise good, but he’s gonna be fun to keep track of
32) KC * TE Luke Musgrave * they don’t miss too very often

missed the cut >> CB Devon Witherspoon

denied access to the green room >> WR Quentin Johnston, ED Myles Murphy, DT Bryan Bresee, CB Cam Smith, WR Jalin Hyatt, CB Deonte Banks, CB Kelee Ringo, LB Drew Sanders, CB Clark Phillips, LB Jack Campbell

I've seen Hendon Hooker mocked to the Raiders a number of times... but not at #7 overall.

Has HH shot up the charts *that* much?!?

[beachcomber]

01) Carolina * QB Anthony Richardson * lone member of the big boy club among the faves here
02) Texans * QB Bryce Young * apparently they have their Lone Star hearts set on the Young’n
03) Az * ED Will Anderson * trade might not be as inevitable as some lead us to believe
04) Indy * QB CJ Stroud * early season more pedestrian than not reviews will catch up to him soon
05) Seattle * ED Lukas Van Ness * Carrol never afraid to be intrepid on draft day
06) Lions * ED Tyree Wilson * awful good pairing w/Hutchinson
07) Vegas * QB Hendon Hooker * tell me whatsa mattah w/this guy…. not too much me thinx
08) Atlanta * OT Broderick Jones * not even sure he’s a top five OT
09) Bears * OT Paris Johnson * looks the part and hopefully fills their hole there
10) Philly * DT Jalen Carter * makes sense, as their IDL always seems to be a priority
11) Titans * QB Will Levis * not as good as HH, and in danger of being Drew Lock good
12) Texans * WR Jaxon Smith Njigba * pretty much locked in here atm by the punditry @large
13) Pack * OT Peter Skoronski * for the if and when the trade is finally consummated
14) Pats * DB Brian Branch * not sure if he’s bpa here, and still a solid get for Mr. Bill
15) Pack * TE Michael Mayer * hope springs eternal, albeit def seems more of a Packer than DK
16) WashDC * CB Christian Gonzalez * not like Ron to be going defensive secondary over front 7
17) Steelers * CB Joey Porter Jr. * is he better than Devon Witherspoon
18) Lions * RB Bijan Robinson * universally loved by most fan bases
19) Bucs * OT Darnell Wright * has risen thru the ranks, but can he play LT for ‘em
20) Seattle * DT Calijah Kancey * who wouldn’t want to roll the dice on a possible Aaron Donald 2.0
21) Miami * forfeited
22) LAC * TE Dalton Kincaid * or are we gonna do our best to trade up to 17 (for a measly third rounder)
23) Ravens * WR Zay Flowers * need pick, which is uncharacteristic of DeCosta
24) Minny * DE Keion White * conspicuously invited to the green room by the League, and in lieu of QJ
25) Jax * TE Darnell Washington * do think he will round into a TE1, albeit in Pips like fashion
26) Giants * WR Jordan Addison * an answered prayer for the Gigantes
27) Dallas * ED Nolan Smith * do him and Parsons work (well) together
28) Bills * OC John Michael Schmitz * practical/responsible need pick
29) Cincy * OG O’Cyrus Torrence * gives ol’ Joe a little bit more room to operate
30) Saints * NT Mazi Smith * count me as surprised some if this transpires as such
31) Philly * RB Jahmyr Gibbs * not sure if he’s Bijanaise good, but he’s gonna be fun to keep track of
32) KC * TE Luke Musgrave * they don’t miss too very often

missed the cut >> CB Devon Witherspoon

denied access to the green room >> WR Quentin Johnston, ED Myles Murphy, DT Bryan Bresee, CB Cam Smith, WR Jalin Hyatt, CB Deonte Banks, CB Kelee Ringo, LB Drew Sanders, CB Clark Phillips, LB Jack Campbell

[Topcat]

They just gave up 35 points in the Super Bowl.
They lost Jason Hargrave, and a few others from the D.

I can see them passing on Bijon.

Pretty sure Telesco isn't even considering trading up to #9.
More likely, they'll trade back.
Trading up a few spots perhaps.

Once again, ahem, let's review the list of how many times TT has traded back:

1.
2.
3.

Clock is ticking...
(Highly doubtful it happens)

[powderblueboy]

I am not expecting the Eagles to pass on Robinson at #10. They are way too smart for that.

If that happens I can't see Detroit passing on him.

The question is, in this particular draft, what will it take to move up to #9? Would #21, Ekeler, and a third be enough?

They just gave up 35 points in the Super Bowl.
They lost Jason Hargrave, and a few others from the D.

I can see them passing on Bijon.

Pretty sure Telesco isn't even considering trading up to #9.
More likely, they'll trade back.
Trading up a few spots perhaps.

[Topcat]

More recent examples are the Cowboys selecting Ezekiel Elliot fourth overall in 2016, the Jaguars taking Leonard Fournette fourth overall in 2017, and the Giants picking Saquon Barkley second overall in 2018. I doubt any of those teams would have done that if they liked a player at a position with greater value, although Jalen Ramsey was sitting right there for the Cowboys. In hindsight the Giants should have taken Josh Allen, but very few thought he was the best quarterback in that draft, which is why he was the third passer taken.

I can't find many who believe there are five players better than Bijan Robinson in this draft. If he lasts to the 21st pick and Telesco doesn't take him I think we should all boycott until he gets fired.

I honestly don't think Bijan lasts to #21, but if he does, TT should sprint up to the podium quicker than u can say "Marcus McNeill"...

[DerwinBosa]

The Chargers were a bad team when they drafted LT, not sure if the theory is sound

More recent examples are the Cowboys selecting Ezekiel Elliot fourth overall in 2016, the Jaguars taking Leonard Fournette fourth overall in 2017, and the Giants picking Saquon Barkley second overall in 2018. I doubt any of those teams would have done that if they liked a player at a position with greater value, although Jalen Ramsey was sitting right there for the Cowboys. In hindsight the Giants should have taken Josh Allen, but very few thought he was the best quarterback in that draft, which is why he was the third passer taken.

I can't find many who believe there are five players better than Bijan Robinson in this draft. If he lasts to the 21st pick and Telesco doesn't take him I think we should all boycott until he gets fired.