2023 Mock Draft Thread

[Formula 21]

Dane Brugler tabs the Detroit Lions ‘a big winner’ in his 7-round mock draft

Sweet. Do a mock draft and then grade it and declare a winner. Yeah, it’s definitely taking too long for the real draft to get here.

[ghost]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...e-schoonmaker/

TE Luke Schoonmaker

In a loaded tight end class, Schoonmaker may be the best blocker of the bunch. He’s relentless and has strong hands. He sustains his blocks and keeps his legs driving at contact. He’s comfortable on the move and hits his marks out in space. He’s a pro-ready blocker that could be an immediate asset to a team’s rushing attack. “It’s still his run blocking, though he does have underrated ball skills and speed,” Sayfie said. “He’s just so technically sound, and his upper body is huge. He uses that strength to his advantage. Michigan relies a lot on its tight ends in the run game, and Schoonmaker was a big part of that, especially over the last two seasons. His footwork is awesome, whether he’s blocking a guy straight up or pulling across the line and leading out front on the other end of the formation. As mentioned, his strength really helps him, too, and his speed allows him to initiate contact with a lot of force.”

Schoonmaker is a plus athlete, as he showcased the scouting combine when he clocked 4.63 40 and a broad jump of 10-7.

Schoonmaker accelerates quickly off the line of scrimmage to quickly enter his route. He has a high football IQ and finds the open spot to make himself available to the quarterback. At 6-5, he’s a big target that could develop into a reliable, safety blanket on intermediate routes. He’s a long strider with the size and speed to threaten the seam. He has strong, reliable hands and does a good job of snaring the ball away from his frame. Once he secures the catch, Schoonmaker runs hard after the catch. According to PFF, the Michigan tight end racked up 190 yards after the catch.

Complete TE.

Round Four Groupings for me

[wu-dai clan]

Why trade down when possibly 5 QBs could be taken before we pick. LOL!

McKee of Stanford is creepying up. Could that create a trade up partner for us, to trade down from @ #21 ?

[gzubeck]

There is no chance. DNA is destiny, its just not in him or the organization to trade down.

Why trade down when possibly 5 QBs could be taken before we pick. LOL!

[dmac_bolt]

01) Carolina * QB Anthony Richardson * lone member of the big boy club among the faves here
02) Texans * QB Bryce Young * apparently they have their Lone Star hearts set on the Young’n
03) Az * ED Will Anderson * trade might not be as inevitable as some lead us to believe
04) Indy * QB CJ Stroud * early season more pedestrian than not reviews will catch up to him soon
05) Seattle * ED Lukas Van Ness * Carrol never afraid to be intrepid on draft day
06) Lions * ED Tyree Wilson * awful good pairing w/Hutchinson
07) Vegas * QB Hendon Hooker * tell me whatsa mattah w/this guy…. not too much me thinx
08) Atlanta * OT Broderick Jones * not even sure he’s a top five OT
09) Bears * OT Paris Johnson * looks the part and hopefully fills their hole there
10) Philly * DT Jalen Carter * makes sense, as their IDL always seems to be a priority
11) Titans * QB Will Levis * not as good as HH, and in danger of being Drew Lock good
12) Texans * WR Jaxon Smith Njigba * pretty much locked in here atm by the punditry @large
13) Pack * OT Peter Skoronski * for the if and when the trade is finally consummated
14) Pats * DB Brian Branch * not sure if he’s bpa here, and still a solid get for Mr. Bill
15) Pack * TE Michael Mayer * hope springs eternal, albeit def seems more of a Packer than DK
16) WashDC * CB Christian Gonzalez * not like Ron to be going defensive secondary over front 7
17) Steelers * CB Joey Porter Jr. * is he better than Devon Witherspoon
18) Lions * RB Bijan Robinson * universally loved by most fan bases
19) Bucs * OT Darnell Wright * has risen thru the ranks, but can he play LT for ‘em
20) Seattle * DT Calijah Kancey * who wouldn’t want to roll the dice on a possible Aaron Donald 2.0
21) Miami * forfeited
22) LAC * TE Dalton Kincaid * or are we gonna do our best to trade up to 17 (for a measly third rounder)
23) Ravens * WR Zay Flowers * need pick, which is uncharacteristic of DeCosta
24) Minny * DE Keion White * conspicuously invited to the green room by the League, and in lieu of QJ
25) Jax * TE Darnell Washington * do think he will round into a TE1, albeit in Pips like fashion
26) Giants * WR Jordan Addison * an answered prayer for the Gigantes
27) Dallas * ED Nolan Smith * do him and Parsons work (well) together
28) Bills * OC John Michael Schmitz * practical/responsible need pick
29) Cincy * OG O’Cyrus Torrence * gives ol’ Joe a little bit more room to operate
30) Saints * NT Mazi Smith * count me as surprised some if this transpires as such
31) Philly * RB Jahmyr Gibbs * not sure if he’s Bijanaise good, but he’s gonna be fun to keep track of
32) KC * TE Luke Musgrave * they don’t miss too very often

missed the cut >> CB Devon Witherspoon

denied access to the green room >> WR Quentin Johnston, ED Myles Murphy, DT Bryan Bresee, CB Cam Smith, WR Jalin Hyatt, CB Deonte Banks, CB Kelee Ringo, LB Drew Sanders, CB Clark Phillips, LB Jack Campbell

So we only need to trade up to 17 to get Bijan. Do it, TT! I split this equation down the middle

- agree with majority, don’t trade up inside 10 as the cost is too much
- if Bijan is still there at 15-17, jump for him.

[dmac_bolt]

So, yer telling me there's a chance?

There is no chance. DNA is destiny, its just not in him or the organization to trade down.

[TexanBeerlover]

01) Carolina * QB Anthony Richardson * lone member of the big boy club among the faves here
02) Texans * QB Bryce Young * apparently they have their Lone Star hearts set on the Young’n
03) Az * ED Will Anderson * trade might not be as inevitable as some lead us to believe
04) Indy * QB CJ Stroud * early season more pedestrian than not reviews will catch up to him soon
05) Seattle * ED Lukas Van Ness * Carrol never afraid to be intrepid on draft day
06) Lions * ED Tyree Wilson * awful good pairing w/Hutchinson
07) Vegas * QB Hendon Hooker * tell me whatsa mattah w/this guy…. not too much me thinx
08) Atlanta * OT Broderick Jones * not even sure he’s a top five OT
09) Bears * OT Paris Johnson * looks the part and hopefully fills their hole there
10) Philly * DT Jalen Carter * makes sense, as their IDL always seems to be a priority
11) Titans * QB Will Levis * not as good as HH, and in danger of being Drew Lock good
12) Texans * WR Jaxon Smith Njigba * pretty much locked in here atm by the punditry @large
13) Pack * OT Peter Skoronski * for the if and when the trade is finally consummated
14) Pats * DB Brian Branch * not sure if he’s bpa here, and still a solid get for Mr. Bill
15) Pack * TE Michael Mayer * hope springs eternal, albeit def seems more of a Packer than DK
16) WashDC * CB Christian Gonzalez * not like Ron to be going defensive secondary over front 7
17) Steelers * CB Joey Porter Jr. * is he better than Devon Witherspoon
18) Lions * RB Bijan Robinson * universally loved by most fan bases
19) Bucs * OT Darnell Wright * has risen thru the ranks, but can he play LT for ‘em
20) Seattle * DT Calijah Kancey * who wouldn’t want to roll the dice on a possible Aaron Donald 2.0
21) Miami * forfeited
22) LAC * TE Dalton Kincaid * or are we gonna do our best to trade up to 17 (for a measly third rounder)
23) Ravens * WR Zay Flowers * need pick, which is uncharacteristic of DeCosta
24) Minny * DE Keion White * conspicuously invited to the green room by the League, and in lieu of QJ
25) Jax * TE Darnell Washington * do think he will round into a TE1, albeit in Pips like fashion
26) Giants * WR Jordan Addison * an answered prayer for the Gigantes
27) Dallas * ED Nolan Smith * do him and Parsons work (well) together
28) Bills * OC John Michael Schmitz * practical/responsible need pick
29) Cincy * OG O’Cyrus Torrence * gives ol’ Joe a little bit more room to operate
30) Saints * NT Mazi Smith * count me as surprised some if this transpires as such
31) Philly * RB Jahmyr Gibbs * not sure if he’s Bijanaise good, but he’s gonna be fun to keep track of
32) KC * TE Luke Musgrave * they don’t miss too very often

missed the cut >> CB Devon Witherspoon

denied access to the green room >> WR Quentin Johnston, ED Myles Murphy, DT Bryan Bresee, CB Cam Smith, WR Jalin Hyatt, CB Deonte Banks, CB Kelee Ringo, LB Drew Sanders, CB Clark Phillips, LB Jack Campbell

Top notch effort. Brugler came out today with his and couldn’t help notice similarities.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

So, yer telling me there's a chance?

Jim Carrey is telling you there's a chance! Wanna hear the most annoying sound ever?

"La Mesa! EYE want to hear from EWE!"

[Topcat]

Trading back requires a trade back partner, and for all WE know, Telesco has been interested in trading back on occasion, but wasn't able to locate a team to dance with.

Likewise, maybe Telesco typically has identified the guy he wants when he's on the clock, and doesn't see five equal prospects, at least ONE of whom he would definitely have access to if he traded down a handful of spots.

So IMO, "He hasn't done it before" isn't an entirely persuasive argument. The circumstances involving the depth of this particular draft crop at the 21st pick may make trading down pretty much a no-brainer IF THE RIGHT TRADE PARTNER CAN BE FOUND.

So I'm 'Wait and See' on this particular issue.

So, yer telling me there's a chance?

[richpjr]

I've seen a few pundit mocks have us trading up to grab Bijan.

With a tight cap situation, we need more picks, not fewer - I hope they trade down, not up. But TT has only traded up before so who knows.

[Boltjolt]

They gave up 31 points to the Chiefs, who do that to nearly everyone. (The 49ers gave up 44 to them).

If Jalen Carter is there they probably will pass on Bijan, I don't expect Carter to fall past Seattle, though.

Bijan is just way too good to pass on for a lesser player at a position of need. They can get a defensive tackle with their late first-round pick or in a later round. Javon Hargrove was a third-round pick by the Steelers in 2016. This draft has good depth at the defensive tackle position, and the Eagles actually aren't as thin there as we are.

The Eagles are in a pretty good spot with Fletcher Cox, Jordan Davis and Milton Williams in starting roles in 2023. But Cox is 32 now and back on a one-year deal. And the depth behind the starting group isn’t great. The Eagles added veteran Kentavius Street on a veteran minimum deal, which was smart. The idea is to fill glaring needs so you don’t reach in the draft. But this is still an area the Eagles need to improve and we know it’s a position they really value.

The Eagles also lost Miles Sanders, so they aren't exactly set with a primary running back. To me it's a no-brainer for the Eagles if Bijan is there. It's scary to think about how much greater their running game will be if they get him.

They did sign Rashan Penny but he is always hurt, so we'll see. Don't recall the contract they signed him to so maybe they will bypass Bijan and get a RB later.
But I wouldn't, id pick Bijan.

[DerwinBosa]

They just gave up 35 points in the Super Bowl.
They lost Jason Hargrave, and a few others from the D.

I can see them passing on Bijon.

They gave up 31 points to the Chiefs, who do that to nearly everyone. (The 49ers gave up 44 to them).

If Jalen Carter is there they probably will pass on Bijan, I don't expect Carter to fall past Seattle, though.

Bijan is just way too good to pass on for a lesser player at a position of need. They can get a defensive tackle with their late first-round pick or in a later round. Javon Hargrove was a third-round pick by the Steelers in 2016. This draft has good depth at the defensive tackle position, and the Eagles actually aren't as thin there as we are.

The Eagles are in a pretty good spot with Fletcher Cox, Jordan Davis and Milton Williams in starting roles in 2023. But Cox is 32 now and back on a one-year deal. And the depth behind the starting group isn’t great. The Eagles added veteran Kentavius Street on a veteran minimum deal, which was smart. The idea is to fill glaring needs so you don’t reach in the draft. But this is still an area the Eagles need to improve and we know it’s a position they really value.

The Eagles also lost Miles Sanders, so they aren't exactly set with a primary running back. To me it's a no-brainer for the Eagles if Bijan is there. It's scary to think about how much greater their running game will be if they get him.