2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[sonorajim]

Linsley out is the big reason.
The two guards have to work harder.
I don't think Salyer and Johnson are able to compensate.

I question training and scheme. Agree about Linsley, but IMO it's his leadership that is missed most. A good OC and OL Coach should pick up more of the slack. Johnson and Salyer were 2nd year players in new positions. Somebody owed them some help. Play calls, auxiliary blockers, dumb it down. They didn't get much. They got lost a lot. Coaching sucked when it counted.

[QuiteFrankly]

The best pass rusher available. Bosa was a good pick but turned out to be injury prone. After QB...pass rusher the most beneficial player.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

The best pass rusher available. Bosa was a good pick but turned out to be injury prone. After QB...pass rusher the most beneficial player.

If I'm not mistaken, you're describing either UCLA D-lineman Laiatu Latu, or Alabama Front Seven Defender Dallas Turner.

Laiatu is one of *my* guys., a player I'd be jacked about seeing become a Charger.

[Floyal Rush]

Nice get!

The 2nd round guy was okay too.

4rth round? I'm thinking it was that linebacker from USC .... Zeke Moreno.

Moreno I think?? was 5th or 6th. 4th I remember because I wanted him. Good ol Carlos Polk I believe.

[dmac_bolt]

I question training and scheme. Agree about Linsley, but IMO it's his leadership that is missed most. A good OC and OL Coach should pick up more of the slack. Johnson and Salyer were 2nd year players in new positions. Somebody owed them some help. Play calls, auxiliary blockers, dumb it down. They didn't get much. They got lost a lot. Coaching sucked when it counted.

Bingo.

[21&500]

This mock draft is almost a month old, and before the draft order but 2 big points that's been discussed here...

He believes Alt can play ORT
And Brock is a "hedge bet" against QJ not becoming the guy and Allen's age.

"No Brock after he's gone."

[gzubeck]

This mock draft is almost a month old, and before the draft order but 2 big points that's been discussed here...

He believes Alt can play ORT
And Brock is a "hedge bet" against QJ not becoming the guy and Allen's age.

"No Brock after he's gone."

Were picking 5 and they say Bears with Nabers pick...hmmmm...Nabers> Bowers. meh.....

[Boltnut]

I'm not buying the weakness in the Oline argument.
Steichen had lesser players on his Charger Oline, and yet Herbert went downfield consistently that year.

I'm guessing it was Staley preaching no turnover football in his OC's ears.

Chargers typically won the turnover battle under BS, and still lost the game, which tells me it's a somewhat overblown truism in the league.

Of course Herbert went downfield more with Steichen than he did with Lombardi.
They have completely different philosophies.

Running the ball well always makes passing the ball easier.
Having better OT's always gives your QB more time.
An effective OL coach make everyone better.
My point was... Frank Smith was effective. Even when he had Storm Norton at RT.

[madcaplaughs]

Were picking 5 and they say Bears with Nabers pick...hmmmm...Nabers> Bowers. meh.....

I wonder it it's possible that the bears would pick Nabers, then have Daniels fall to them. I hope they stick with Fields, but you never know

[blueman]

I question training and scheme. Agree about Linsley, but IMO it's his leadership that is missed most. A good OC and OL Coach should pick up more of the slack. Johnson and Salyer were 2nd year players in new positions. Somebody owed them some help. Play calls, auxiliary blockers, dumb it down. They didn't get much. They got lost a lot. Coaching sucked when it counted.

OL, QB, WR, RB…the entire O regressed under Staley and his OCs. But look at what a good coach did for our STs.

Coach up the O talent we have, bet we win a few more of those one-score games we always infuriatingly lose.

[Go Chargers go]

I wonder it it's possible that the bears would pick Nabers, then have Daniels fall to them. I hope they stick with Fields, but you never know

If Bears trade back with Patriots I see first 3 pick being QB. Giant might trade up for QB as well. Could get us Harrison or Fashanu. If those two somehow are gone I trade back with someone looking for QB.

[Boltnut]

Along the OL. We know how good Slater and Linsley are/were. Both earned a Pro Bowl start at one point in their career. I know that Zion is good @LG. His sophmore tape @BC is remarkable. I have no doubt he will be good once someone develops him properly. Salyer did an amazing job (@LT no less) when Slater went down. Pip is Pip. I'd let Salyer have a shot @RT. In the end, your OC and OL coach have to do a better job of teaching. Throw the complicated blocking schemes in the trash. Let these guys play. I have my doubts that the Spanii can land Harbaugh... but if they can, I'd love to see some of his Michigan players in powder blues. I think he'd build a better defense and pay more attention to the trenches.