2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[DerwinBosa]

I have this sneaky feeling that they we will be in for a (rather disappointing) surprise come the draft. For arguments sake, say the guy who is #1 on Hortiz' list is someone like Terrion Arnold or Olu Fashanu. Would you be happpy if they drafted him at 5? I have this funny feeling that is what they will be doing and everybody will be in uproar because they didn't trade down.

Nobody in this forum possesses the resumes Harbaugh and Hortiz have, and they have given us no reason to not have faith in what they're doing. That should be kept in mind before anyone starts whining about the first pick Harbaugh and Hortiz make together.

[DerwinBosa]

Below is from a Go Long article by Tyler Dunne. When the silly season started I thought it would be Caleb Williams first and Drake Maye second. I didn't think the Giants would be in the market for a quarterback because I didn't believe they would be interested in anyone besides Williams and Maye. Now it seems Jayden Daniels is locked in with Washington at #2 (good luck with that), and the Patriots may be willing to give up the third overall pick. If the Giants are able to make the trade for Maye, I think that leaves us as the logical choice for the Vikings to deal with for their second choice at quarterback (I think they want Maye badly but could settle for J.J. McCarthy). I really don't believe Arizona is interested in trading out. New England is a mystery to me. I have no idea what Eliot Wolf is thinking as the first man in charge after Bill Belichick.

Obviously I don't have any inside information, but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody takes a quarterback after Williams, Daniels, and Maye go with the first three picks. Part of me believes that the McCarthy talk has been a complete smokescreen by everyone in hopes it would push Maye down to the fourth quarterback selected--giving the Giants a better shot at him with the sixth overall pick or the Vikings and Broncos a better chance to trade up with us.

Just one day away. Hopefully it works out for us.

Why Drake Maye and the New York Giants are a perfect fit

Actions forever speak louder than words. Especially this time of year. The New York Giants are clearly interested in drafting a quarterback in the first round of the 2024 NFL Draft.

Visits. Private meetings. Pro days. They’ve exhausted plenty of jet fuel learning everything possible about the top prospects in this class.

Very nice things have been said about Daniel Jones, and there’s no doubt the men in charge of this team sincerely mean those nice things. But the spring of ‘24 for the Giants has mirrored the spring of 2018 for the Buffalo Bills. GM Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll are determined to learn everything they possibly can about LSU’s Jayden Daniels, North Carolina’s Drake Maye and Michigan’s J.J. McCarthy.

It takes two. Barring drastic change, the Chicago Bears will select Caleb Williams No. 1 and the Washington Commanders will take Daniels No. 2. Which makes New England Patriots boss Eliot Wolf the NFL’s mystery man this week. Does he fear the Patriots may not get this opportunity again at QB and take his big swing right now? Or does he take a gander at the sad roster Bill Belichick left behind and auction off the No. 3 pick for draft capital? A strong case can be made for both decisions.

He has eager trade partners and, for all we know, parameters for a potential deal are being ironed out.

The Minnesota Vikings can dangle the 11th and 23rd overall picks, and Kevin O’Connell joked that he has already sent Robert Kraft a bouquet of flowers. But Schoen can offer the premium pick (No. 6) for a chance at a premium player (Malik Nabers? Rome Odunze?) at a position currently occupied by a batch of Jabar Gaffneys in Foxborough. The QB tax will be high. But it’s on Schoen to put an arm around Daboll in a dimly lit room and promise to make Wolf an offer he can’t refuse.

Both were hired to get this position right in New Jersey because both played crucial roles in getting it right in Buffalo after a 17-year malaise.

No way will either show their hand.

But the gut feeling here is that both Schoen and Daboll will do everything they can to land Drake Maye.

Start with the Combine quote from Schoen’s longtime friend in the business, his former pickup basketball foe.

Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane nailed it:

“We got criticized a little bit for how much we gave up for Josh, and I’m like, ‘Well if he doesn’t work out, I’m not going to be here anyway. If he does work out, nobody’s going to give a shit.’”

Hit on the quarterback pick, and it’s true. Nobody will give a damn what it cost.

Hit on the wide receiver pick, win a few more games, and the Giants run the risk of dreaded 8-9 gridlocked traffic. Thrust right back into the hunt for a quarterback.

Maye represents the ultimate win-win. Even those who believe in the UNC QB (raises hand) will admit he’d benefit from watching from the sideline. Not as a Day 1 starter like Zach Wilson with the clown-show outfit that also inhabits MetLife Stadium. With the Giants, Maye can genuinely sit for a good chunk of his first season. If not all 17 games. The Giants can give Daniel Jones a fair chance to perform in Year 2 of his deal. Obviously, he wouldn’t enjoy sharing a QB room with his eventual replacement. But if this welcomes a good ‘ol fashioned NYC tabloid quarterback controversy by Week 8, so be it. That’s the NFL. Big-boy pants are required.

After two neck injuries and a torn ACL, Jones’ health alone demands the Giants draft a quarterback. His game is widely known. He has played 62 games.

Pressure in New York is always different. Maybe the Giants make the playoffs, maybe not. What’s most important for Schoen and Daboll is that — by season’s end — both can sell a true vision at the most important position.

Both should want to make their move at what they know best: Quarterbacks.

[blueman]

I have this sneaky feeling that they we will be in for a (rather disappointing) surprise come the draft. For arguments sake, say the guy who is #1 on Hortiz' list is someone like Terrion Arnold or Olu Fashanu. Would you be happpy if they drafted him at 5? I have this funny feeling that is what they will be doing and everybody will be in uproar because they didn't trade down.

You and wu, sheesh. This isn’t daycare in here, I seriously doubt any uproar will happen from anybody. Might be questions, some good debate as per usual. The drama queens need to give it a rest.

[northerner]

I have this sneaky feeling that they we will be in for a (rather disappointing) surprise come the draft. For arguments sake, say the guy who is #1 on Hortiz' list is someone like Terrion Arnold or Olu Fashanu. Would you be happpy if they drafted him at 5? I have this funny feeling that is what they will be doing and everybody will be in uproar because they didn't trade down.

your screen name is Sinking Feeling, so you are staying true to form. i think we would trade back before taking those guys at #5 - uproar indeed !!

[ThatSinkingFeeling]

I have this sneaky feeling that they we will be in for a (rather disappointing) surprise come the draft. For arguments sake, say the guy who is #1 on Hortiz' list is someone like Terrion Arnold or Olu Fashanu. Would you be happpy if they drafted him at 5? I have this funny feeling that is what they will be doing and everybody will be in uproar because they didn't trade down.

[MagicMamba88]

[northerner]

One day before the draft is when rumors can start to become a little more credible.
Teams and their plans become more solid.

it is like draft xmas eve.

[Lone Bolt]

Did I come across as serious?

But really, Alt + Beebee ? That's a bit too much protein in the diet.

Uh...no its not...sign me up!! (Its what's for dinner...)

[wu-dai clan]

One day before the draft is when rumors can start to become a little more credible.
Teams and their plans become more solid.

[wu-dai clan]

Did I come across as serious?

But really, Alt + Beebee ? That's a bit too much protein in the diet.

Green text implied Sir.
BTW Alt, Beebe and Fuaga all are adept at run blocking at the second level.
Light boxes, 220# Coverage LBs and Nickel DBs get destroyed.

[powderblueboy]

You are the one I had in mind for welfare check ins.
Let's not take this all to seriously, pbb.

Did I come across as serious?

But really, Alt + Beebee ? That's a bit too much protein in the diet.

[powderblueboy]

Too Funny...it's almost a Christmas list of players I wanna draft...Somebody hoping they can get some players to slide to their pick. LOL!

That's what it sounds like to me.

Throwing them in the same category as Latu and Pennix ... sheesh!
Why didn't they include Bowers?