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  • dmac_bolt
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    • May 2019
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    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

    well, am sure you'll have company from BoltNut there, and who'll prolly dig up a good handful of corners he likes (albeit his latest mock has him tabbing CB round two, and which is the same slotting for Fleet's CB of choice, and my take on Kalen King as a second round value as well ?), and.... personally see close to a handful of EDs (round one) that I much prefer over CB.

    round two is time to start looking @the OC, as again personally, will take Mike D. as my starting outside corner over most anyone in the draft.... (pay dah man).

    round three it comes down to LB or RB for me, and last time 'round we went RB, sure seemed like team Tommy John missed out on their RB of choice by waiting 'til round four, and not making sure of their guy round three ?? will they make the same mistake twice, or make sure we have an RB in the stable by the end of day two ??

    so for myself, CB is a day three depth target, as we have Ja'Sir and Deane Leonard who may be enough depth, and we'll need just one more to round out the bunch ??

    (it's still early
    I was thinking about this last night as I don't know - how many starting Centers today were taken in Rd1, Rd2, Rd3? Drafting an OC before Rd3 used to be rare, but I don't know if expert thinking has changed. 2023 had zero Rd1, 2 Rd2, 1 Rd3. next up was Rd5.
    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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    • beachcomber
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      Screenshot 2023-11-07 092902.png
      ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
      TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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      • beachcomber
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        Screenshot 2023-11-07 093442.png
        ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
        TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza

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        • Formula 21
          The Future is Now
          • Jun 2013
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          Mock of the day. We now pick @17.

          I traded down twice, got 4 picks in the first two rounds and 5 in the top 100. And nabbed the best C in the draft.

          IMG_0125.jpg
          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
          Let’s win one for Mack.

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          • Fleet 1
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            • Jun 2013
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            For the best imo...

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            • Topcat
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              Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
              Mock of the day. We now pick @17.

              I traded down twice, got 4 picks in the first two rounds and 5 in the top 100. And nabbed the best C in the draft.

              IMG_0125.jpg
              Wow...imagine bookend Edge players: Tui and Tuli...imagine the announcer: "And Mahomes is the baloney in the Samoan Sandwich!!!"

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              • madcaplaughs
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                • Jun 2013
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                What do you guys think about J. C. Latham?

                If I were a bit concerned, we didn't have great luck with our last Alabama T/G ahem....

                That being said, he's pretty good at pushing people around. Looks kind of slow for screens, and pulling though. Sometimes when he's pass blocking, it looks like it's just too easy for him.
                Last edited by madcaplaughs; 11-09-2023, 03:29 PM.

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                • Lone Bolt
                  Oline-Tip of the Spear...
                  • Feb 2019
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                  Originally posted by Fleet 1 View Post
                  Do not like this...think they should add an underclassman all star game, fleshed out with seniors if the numbers are short...the senior all star games are a good tool to look at late bloomers, misused or underdeveloped talent, and small school sammies...and now they are gonna get furthur buried in the process by power conference juniors...
                  Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                  Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                  Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                  • dmac_bolt
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                    Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                    Do not like this...think they should add an underclassman all star game, fleshed out with seniors if the numbers are short...the senior all star games are a good tool to look at late bloomers, misused or underdeveloped talent, and small school sammies...and now they are gonna get furthur buried in the process by power conference juniors...
                    interesting take, i didn't even really ponder this change much. I don't care much about all star games - I'd say I'm not sure it matters much but TT has an odd propensity to pick random guys he thought were good in one all star game. Maybe this will help him by culling some of the one-game wonders out of his field of view and replacing them with more blue-chip prospects lol
                    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                    • C'monchargers
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                      • Feb 2019
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                      I think each and every year people tend to get drawn to a certain team to watch and personally FSU and their trio of Trey Benson, Keon Coleman and Johhny Wilson is ones that has pique my interest most. This is not a reflection on Ekeler's ability because he is a very good runner; for myself, I would love to see Trey Benson in a Chargers uniform next year.

                      Firstly, his forced missed tackle rating and yac is absolutely top notch to a point where it is almost an oddity. The FSU oline imo blocks much better on boundaery side than the field side; which menas the side that is between the sideline and the hash mark. Probably due to the nature that the linemen dont have to travel far to hold up their assignments. Even with less space on the boundary side in college, when Trey Benson gets that open lane, he is proven to be a problem for defense. players like him is why defense can't have nice things because every time he sees a tackle he is going to break it. He is a big body 6'2" 220+ guy that runs with a vintage style. Rigid through contact with strong legs and low center of gravity to stay balance. He was a former ducks and last year was his first with the noles and he was productive since the moment he arrived. His change of pace, and transition of his stride, in terms of speed and intervals is what sets him apart from the pack imo given his built. His biggest improvement thus far this year imo perhaps is his improvement in top end stride, which is much noticeable during his break aways. The 2022 Trey Benson, I would liken to a strong 4 gear thransmission old school muscle car, 2023 he is much more like a modern muscle car that can stretch to that 5th gear, this year he topped out at 22mph. Did I mention guy is doing that at 6'2 and a 220lbs+ mucular block of aggression.

                      Funfact: One of my buddy swears the college field is bigger and he is not half wrong. In college, the hash mark is 60ft to the nearest sideline and that makes the hash marks about 40ft apart vs in NFL, the hash mark is about 70.9ft from the sideline and the hash marks about 18 1/2ft part. The function of the hash mark is for when the ball is out of bound, the ball will be placed at the nearest hash mark. In that token, more often than not in college, the offense will have a wider "field" side than NFL and shorter "boundary" side. So in a way, being open and spacing can affect a certain type pf players (Yes, i am looking at you Quentin Johnston) more and some you get to see how they can show they can work with a lanes in tight spaces.


                      ​I don't want to start ranting about him too much but he would be a friend to our time of possession. Very much looking forward to their game against the hurricane this week.

                      For Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson, other than injury concerns, they are just out of the world in measurements and with the game tape to back it. And that goes for the WRs in this coming year of draft class. If I have to guess, this coming class of WRs will be one of the best if not De best in recent history (including Jefferson's year, AJ brown, DK year). I really don't remember the last time this many 6' and above WR with the ball skills and footwork enter the draft all at once. This class just moves so differently, like the new age that the older guys in the lockerroom is fear of has arrived. I would bet when it comes time even the likes of Steve Smith Sr. would have a hard time picking the second behind Marvin Harrison Jr. the star of last years Ohio St. pro day. Some likes the route running from Nabers, some might like the size, speed and balls skills combo of Coleman and Odunez. Some might like Johnny Wilson, big body and the hubris to match and a strong bully ball candidate. Not to mention Worthy, Egbuka and.... geez.
                      Last edited by C'monchargers; 11-10-2023, 05:05 PM.

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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
                        • Jun 2013
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                        Originally posted by C'monchargers View Post
                        I think each and every year people tend to get drawn to a certain team to watch and personally FSU and their trio of Trey Benson, Keon Coleman and Johhny Wilson is ones that has pique my interest most. This is not a reflection on Ekeler's ability because he is a very good runner; for myself, I would love to see Trey Benson in a Chargers uniform next year.

                        Firstly, his forced missed tackle rating and yac is absolutely top notch to a point where it is almost an oddity. The FSU oline imo blocks much better on boundaery side than the field side; which menas the side that is between the sideline and the hash mark. Probably due to the nature that the linemen dont have to travel far to hold up their assignments. Even with less space on the boundary side in college, when Trey Benson gets that open lane, he is proven to be a problem for defense. players like him is why defense can't have nice things because every time he sees a tackle he is going to break it. He is a big body 6'2" 220+ guy that runs with a vintage style. Rigid through contact with strong legs and low center of gravity to stay balance. He was a former ducks and last year was his first with the noles and he was productive since the moment he arrived. His change of pace, and transition of his stride, in terms of speed and intervals is what sets him apart from the pack imo given his built. His biggest improvement thus far this year imo perhaps is his improvement in top end stride, which is much noticeable during his break aways. The 2022 Trey Benson, I would liken to a strong 4 gear thransmission old school muscle car, 2023 he is much more like a modern muscle car that can stretch to that 5th gear, this year he topped out at 22mph. Did I mention guy is doing that at 6'2 and a 220lbs+ mucular block of aggression.

                        Funfact: One of my buddy swears the college field is bigger and he is not half wrong. In college, the hash mark is 60ft to the nearest sideline and that makes the hash marks about 40ft apart vs in NFL, the hash mark is about 70.9ft from the sideline and the hash marks about 18 1/2ft part. The function of the hash mark is for when the ball is out of bound, the ball will be placed at the nearest hash mark. In that token, more often than not in college, the offense will have a wider "field" side than NFL and shorter "boundary" side. So in a way, being open and spacing can affect a certain type pf players (Yes, i am looking at you Quentin Johnston) more and some you get to see how they can show they can work with a lanes in tight spaces.


                        ​I don't want to start ranting about him too much but he would be a friend to our time of possession. Very much looking forward to their game against the hurricane this week.

                        For Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson, other than injury concerns, they are just out of the world in measurements and with the game tape to back it. And that goes for the WRs in this coming year of draft class. If I have to guess, this coming class of WRs will be one of the best if not De best in recent history (including Jefferson's year, AJ brown, DK year). I really don't remember the last time this many 6' and above WR with the ball skills and footwork enter the draft all at once. This class just moves so differently, like the new age that the older guys in the lockerroom is fear of has arrived. I would bet when it comes time even the likes of Steve Smith Sr. would have a hard time picking the second behind Marvin Harrison Jr. the star of last years Ohio St. pro day. Some likes the route running from Nabers, some might like the size, speed and balls skills combo of Coleman and Odunez. Some might like Johnny Wilson, big body and the hubris to match and a strong bully ball candidate. Not to mention Worthy, Egbuka and.... geez.
                        I endorse Trey Benson. My #1 RB target in this draft.
                        I like Coleman but doubt we go WR round 1 again.
                        I like Brenden Rice hopefully round 4 but he may go round 3.
                        1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                        2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                        3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina

                        4. CJ West DT Indiana
                        5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                        6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                        6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                        6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                        6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                        7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          I endorse Trey Benson. My #1 RB target in this draft.
                          I like Coleman but doubt we go WR round 1 again.
                          I like Brenden Rice hopefully round 4 but he may go round 3.
                          Ok now i have to go search for a highlight reel …
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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