2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[beachcomber]

I agree...MH2 or Nabers and even Odunze are plug n play for 1/3rd the cost of our current premium receivers. I think QJ in this years draft would be a second rounder.

just like MW, QJ was a second rounder.... in last year's draft (and yes.... am still bitter

[beachcomber]

and just a note to those here who study draft philosophy/strategy.... Baltimore is well known for keying in on guys whose metrics take a hit/fall off @the Combine, as they value football players over RAS scores and the like.

they regularly nab guys that turn out to be good value, that didn't score/time as well as expected in Indy.... haven't looked @who those guys might be this go 'round, and.... worth taking a look see @the such.

[beachcomber]

Daniel Jeremiah's top 50: 2024 NFL Draft prospect rankings 1.0

still think it's not outside the realm of possibility that Odunze ends up in Az (player comparison is Larry Fitzgerald fwiw)
Jayden Daniels could well still be on the board @5, tempting the ever elusive Chargers' trade down
eye like Terrion Arnold's intangibles over the Kool Aid, and agree that he could Pro Bowl, and.... still not sold that he is the better CB
calls Bowers undersized, and gives him a George Kittle compare, and.... within value range @8 (only real consideration is Nabers according to DJ's top 8)
not on the Joe Alt bandwagon, albeit as mentioned previously, have no problem moving Rashawn to RT, as long as the man gets paid (Lane Johnson style/numbers)
has Fuaga @11, and by my take is the only real competition for Bowers, and in consideration of any Chargers round one cluster
personally am wary of JC Latham, and DJ has Fashanu behind the both of Fuaga & Alt
he calls Fautanu a starting tackle, and on either side....
think Latu is officially off the board/out of any cluster we might have
Byron Murphy is @22, and we can only hope he drops to 37
don't see Bo Nix lasting past Denver, and even tho Jeremiah comments about him under duress, Nix is the best in the NCAA under pressure/duress
JJ McCarthy gets an Alex Smith compare

calls Graham Barton an OC, albeit personally don't see him as better center prospect over Sedrick Van Pran nor Powers Johnson
says Adonai Mitchell gave Kool Aid alotta trouble in their game
Jackson Powers Johnson is slotted very close to our second round slotting, and.... so is McKinstry
Kamari Lassiter is a nickel back that slots to us round two
Junior Colson checks in @45, negating any third round dreams/ambitions we might have there
Jeremiah has T'Vondre Sweat @48

[21&500]

Haven't seen thia yet but I wanted to post because I've been watching Voch for years and he knows line play.
Can't way to dig in.

[Boltjolt]

um, not everyone wanted Hortiz.... some here wanted/preferred Ian,

personal suspicion is that Hortiz is a Harbaugh selection, and am a little wary of giving Jim total control, as don't think it's ideal not to have @least a little sand for the oyster.

also a bit skeptical in that Joe has only worked in one spot, and not sure that Ian Cunningham isn't the better decision maker outta the two.... ??

personally I liked that Cunningham has worked in a coupla few different environments, and under a coupla few very talented leaders.... think he woulda been the better bridge between Harbaugh and young John, as he is younger and as mentioned before, has some homie to him, as well as having been an Olineman.

that said, have little doubt that Joe 'n Jim will deliver the ever ephemeral SB within the five years that Jim is under contract, however not sure that the overweighting of Harbaugh's choice of Hortiz isn't gonna do him in in the long run, as can see the Chargers conceeding him his way, even when they might feel strongly otherwise, albeit not sure they are then so inclined to renew his contract given that he might repeat his ways of weighing in over the wishes of his personnel support team ??

not overly worried, just going on record as being an Ian supporter, and was never overly excited 'bout Joe, and.... all is well.

It was more about getting a GM that Harbaugh is comfortable working with, unlike Baalke in SF. I don't think JH wanted total control but a good working relationship.
Hortiz has a lot of experience except being THE guy as GM. Some thought Harbaugh would prefer Dodds. I guess he knows Hortiz well with his Brother John being there with him the entire time he has been the HC.

[Fleet 1]

NEWS AND NEAR NEWS

January 30, 2024 - 8:14 pm

With the first day of practice at this year’s Senior Bowl in Mobile, here is a rundown of some of our observations from this afternoon’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se.

• To put it simply, none of the QBs in today’s afternoon session which included Joe Milton of Tennessee, South Carolina’s Spencer Rattler, Michael Pratt of Tulane and South Alabama’s Carter Bradley threw the ball with any kind of authority.
• The star of the day, at least in the afternoon session may have been WR Ladd McConkey of Georgia; he’s not all that big or fast, but displayed a dizzying of array of moves that left more than one cover guy wondering exactly where he’d gone. Don’t blink! To boot, McConkey also made at least one acrobatic diving catch to add to his resume. At the same time, Jamari Thrash of Louisville and McConkey’s Georgia teammate Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint got free for a number of receptions in the team drills. On the other hand, scouts had to be a little disappointed with what they saw from Johnny Wilson of Florida State and South Carolina’s Xavier Legette. Both are big receivers who made a couple of contested catches, but they really struggled to get much separation in the open field, while neither showed much of an extra gear when the ball was in the air.
• If the American team (which practised in the afternoon) have an edge in Mobile one would figure its the offensive line which includes among others OTs Tyler Guyton and Patrick Paul. However, while both had their moments Tuesday afternoon, we’re not sure either was all that consistently dominant. Guyton, a potential top 15 candidate for 2024, for example, could really lock and generally kept his feet moving in pass protection, but lunged at a couple of rushers and pretty much whiffed completely. For his part, Paul consistently gave up too much penetration and seemed to have some issues planting and redirecting when challenged with counter moves. In fact, a pretty good case can be made the Christian Jones of Texas may actually have been the best OT on the day, while Missouri’s Javon Foster wasn’t all that far behind. A case could also be made that American team OGs were really good as a group as none of Brandon Colemen of TCU, Christian Haynes of UConn, Layden Robinson of Texas A&M and Miami’s Javion Cohen gave up much of anything.
• On the other hand, we’re still waiting for someone on the American defensive line to really step. Alabama’s Chris Braswell did flash while rushing the passer on a couple of plays, while Florida State DT Braden Fiske stayed low and aggressive and was also able to make a couple of plays in the backfield.

January 30, 2024 - 1:36 pm

Preliminary observations from AM Senior Bowl practice … With the players warming up for this afternoon’s Senior Bowl practice, here are a couple or three or more preliminary observations from this morning’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se.

• It didn’t appear as if Michael Penix threw the ball all that well on the day. Nothing egregous, but the precision just wasn’t there as a number of his passes were off-target.
• It was also a somewhat disappointing day for UCLA DE Laiatu Latu, arguably the highest rated player in Mobile this week. He was buried by Oregon State’s Taliese Fuaga early in the OL-DL one-on-one drills and didn’t show much in the team portion, although he did beat BYU’s Kingsley Saumataia on a nice inside spin move to wrap up the day. And that may have been the issue with Latu who up until then had really only tried to win with outside speed. It was also a quiet day for Oregon’s Brandon Dorlus, who lined up both inside and out, but didn’t make much of a splash at either, On the whole though it was a pretty good day for the defensive linemen with Marshawn Kneeland of Western Michigan, Baylor’s Gabe Hall, and Austin Booker also showing some pretty good quickness getting into the backfield.
• Speaking of Fuaga, on first blush he appeared to be the best offensive lineman in the morning session. He’s a big guy, but he plays low, gets good arm extension and has very quiet feet. Also on first blush it appeared that Oregon C/G and Illinois OG Isaiah Adams, the only Canadian on this year’s Senior Bowl roster, had solid mornings. On the other hand, Arizona’s Jordan Morgan had a bit of an up-and-down practice. He washed out DT Michael Hall, who otherwise was pretty solid, at least defending the run, but struggled at times especially reacting to counter moves. Utah OG Sataoa Laumea also had a tough time sustaining against quicker interior defenders.
• The Senior Bowl is rarely a particularly good venue for RBs to show their stuff, but at least in today’s practice in shells, Marshall’s Rasheen Ali and USC’s Marshawn Lloyd both showed off some nice speed and quickness to the hole, while Lloyd also made a couple of nice catches downfield in one-on-one wrap-up contest working against Notre Dame LB JD Bertrand. Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s Dylan Laube, one of the few FCS players in Mobile this week, did not look at all out of place, although he didn’t seem to get as many touches as the other backs.
• Nice day for Michigan WR Roman Wilson who showed some speed and quickness and caught the ball well, while it was an up-and-down day for North Carolina’s Tez Walker, who clearly has a second gear, but was a little slow off the snap and not that clean in his cuts.
• Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell, one of the big risers in the 2024 draft class, did nothing to slow that mo with some sticky coverage that resulted in a couple of PBUs. Meanwhile, Cam Hart of Notre Dame had a nice pick when he undercut an underneath route, but did appear to have some problems staying with receivers on deeper routes.

[wu-dai clan]

Fleet 1
McConkey reportedly will run quite well in Indy.
What a route runner !!!

[beachcomber]

Fuaga is for reals,

[CanadianBoltFan]

Fuaga is for reals,

Looks like a riser, could move up in the first round.

Powers Johnson sounded like he impressed and will be the first center, maybe even getting into the first round

[21&500]

Fuaga is for reals,

Maybe the best true ORT.
can Pip play RG?

[Lone Bolt]

Fleet 1
McConkey reportedly will run quite well in Indy.
What a route runner !!!

Cooper Kupp 2.0?

[Lone Bolt]

Maybe the best true ORT.
can Pip play RG?

Yes and...

No. Pip can play swing.