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  • charger1_sj
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    Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

    We don't NEED a stud tight end.

    Gerald Everett's numbers with us in the one year he played a full season with Justin Herbert: 58 receptions, 555 yards, and four touchdowns.

    Tyler Higbee's numbers as the starting tight end of the Super Bowl-winning Rams in 2021: 61 receptions, 560 yards, and five touchdowns.

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    Charger needs: C, CB, TE, RB, LB, Edge (assuming Mack, Bosa or both are gone)
    Charger wants: ROT, DT, Safety, WR

    I can make the argument that NE with Gronk, KC with Kelce have won lots of SBs. More than those teams with average TEs. So there's that.

    Trading down may make the most sense because we need so much. Good position to be in at #5. But I think your excuse for not taking Bowers
    makes no sense. If he's a game changer you take him, period. And we need a TE more than a WR.

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      Originally posted by blueman View Post

      Nor the combine.
      I think the combine is important for the stuff that doesn't happen on the field - meaning how fast they run, bench press, throwing, receiving, all of the football stuff is on film

      The interviews are important with the players
      Teams meeting with other teams and agents writing "hypothetical" contracts on bar napkins.
      And lastly, spending a whopping amount of money at St Elmos every night on the teams dime.

      this year, hopefully somebody posts it - I am sure that NFLNetwork will talk to Harbaugh &/or Hortiz. If Jeremiah is there, would be good if he talked with his old pal Hortiz

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

        Charger needs: C, CB, TE, RB, LB, Edge (assuming Mack, Bosa or both are gone)
        Charger wants: ROT, DT, Safety, WR

        I can make the argument that NE with Gronk, KC with Kelce have won lots of SBs. More than those teams with average TEs. So there's that.

        Trading down may make the most sense because we need so much. Good position to be in at #5. But I think your excuse for not taking Bowers
        makes no sense. If he's a game changer you take him, period. And we need a TE more than a WR.

        .
        I think you can move DT up to the Needs row either before or after CB. On the roster now is Otito and Matlock - thats it.

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        • Formula 21
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          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

          The ONLY OT in the draft with decent run blocking AND pass blocking skills is Alt:

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          And the best run and pass blocking C in the draft is this guy:

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          It actually wouldn't surprise me if Harbo went 1-2 in the draft with both these guys. And it isn't even close from each of them to the next players at their positions.

          Rating: 87.4 Rank: #8 Forty: 5.00 Jackson Powers-Johnson enters the NFL Draft as a top interior O-line prospect, showcasing a solid mix of athleticism, power, and technique from his time...

          https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...t-OL-NotreDame
          Alt runs a 4.90 at 6’-8, 315 pounds. Cynthia Frelund is right, Alt has first pick of the draft potential (in a bad QB year). He’d be a great pick at 5.

          If we want to be a physical team, how can we pass on this guy? If we want to run more and throw less, how can a WR be our first pick?

          Alt then JPJ looks like our dream draft.
          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
          Let’s win one for Mack.

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          • Topcat
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            Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

            Alt runs a 4.90 at 6’-8, 315 pounds. Cynthia Frelund is right, Alt has first pick of the draft potential (in a bad QB year). He’d be a great pick at 5.

            If we want to be a physical team, how can we pass on this guy? If we want to run more and throw less, how can a WR be our first pick?
            Alt moves well for a big guy...same with Powers-Johnson...
            22 - TE Mason Taylor
            55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
            86 - DL Josiah Stewart
            125 - G Dylan Fairchild
            158 - C Jake Majors
            181 - WR Donte Thornton

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            • Boltjolt
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              Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

              We don't NEED a stud tight end.

              Gerald Everett's numbers with us in the one year he played a full season with Justin Herbert: 58 receptions, 555 yards, and four touchdowns.

              Tyler Higbee's numbers as the starting tight end of the Super Bowl-winning Rams in 2021: 61 receptions, 560 yards, and five touchdowns.


              OK, lets take out the word need. And sorry, Everett is mediocre at best and isnt a very good blocker, adds no speed. He runs hard, but thats it.

              We got the best TE by FAR right in our sites. We NEED a TE bad, probably 2 of them and its a big drop off after Bowers. Harbaugh said he wants to give Herbert the best chance to succeed ....(not word for word), and Bowers would be a big part of that with his recieving and blocking skills.'OL will help too but some very good OL in other rounds.

              And you know, Bowers isnt just a TE. Dude is a very good athlete. He runs jet sweeps and has good speed and runs well in space with YAC. They could probably line him up i the backfield at times and he would be effective but i wouldnt want to do that too often and bang him up.

              He is more than your typical TE and a great piece to add to an offense.

              If you would like a lessor player , cool. Id still like to trade down and get him with an extra pick or two but why pass on elite talent for Herbert? Not like he had a bunch of weapons last season. MW, and Palmer went out, Keenan was it! No TE to help elevate his game. Just Keenan and a ineffective Ekeler.

              IMO its a no brainer pick.
              1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
              2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
              3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina

              4. CJ West DT Indiana
              5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
              6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
              6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
              6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
              6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
              7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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              • Formula 21
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                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                That is why I don't care about a RAS score.
                I enjoy reading the RAS scores. But it doesn’t really predict anything for a pro’s future.
                Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                Let’s win one for Mack.

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                • charger1_sj
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                  Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                  I think you can move DT up to the Needs row either before or after CB. On the roster now is Otito and Matlock - thats it.
                  There are 3-4 other guys. None are great. It's a position we can upgrade, but not an immediate need where there is a hole.
                  I see Hilton, Clark, Okoye beside the two you mentioned. Ogbonna and Fox can also play inside although listed as DEs.

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                  • jox g
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                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                    I think you can move DT up to the Needs row either before or after CB. On the roster now is Otito and Matlock - thats it.
                    Free agents Urban (Ravens), Ex Wolverine Hurst (Ex Raider/Current Free Agent).

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                    • jox g
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                      Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

                      Charger needs: C, CB, TE, RB, LB, Edge (assuming Mack, Bosa or both are gone)
                      Charger wants: ROT, DT, Safety, WR

                      I can make the argument that NE with Gronk, KC with Kelce have won lots of SBs. More than those teams with average TEs. So there's that.

                      Trading down may make the most sense because we need so much. Good position to be in at #5. But I think your excuse for not taking Bowers
                      makes no sense. If he's a game changer you take him, period. And we need a TE more than a WR.

                      .
                      Saw a poster here say there are currently 2 free agent Centers who can come from Hortiz's ex roster. Maybe one other from Chad Alexander's ex roster.

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                      • chargeroo
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                        Change of mind alert!
                        I really think these are the first and second round picks that we should take. I really like Bowers and have for two years but for the long term, beef up the OL.
                        THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

                          Charger needs: C, CB, TE, RB, LB, Edge (assuming Mack, Bosa or both are gone)
                          Charger wants: ROT, DT, Safety, WR

                          I can make the argument that NE with Gronk, KC with Kelce have won lots of SBs. More than those teams with average TEs. So there's that.

                          Trading down may make the most sense because we need so much. Good position to be in at #5. But I think your excuse for not taking Bowers
                          makes no sense. If he's a game changer you take him, period. And we need a TE more than a WR.

                          .
                          I've been thinking about this, like everyone here. I think Bowers has the greatest net plus to current roster. But I'm now leaning to Nabers as the most explosive pure player of the two - I think I'll Take the Nabe vs Shower the Bower and find a TE later in the draft.

                          I like Stover out of OSU - he's not as explosive as Bower but he still has speed and is stronger - would fit Harbo's tough LOS offense style well.

                          And I can't argue if they decide to take Alt instead of both of them.

                          This is why we hired a new brain trust to lead the team.
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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