2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[wu-dai clan]

That shows the commitment this team has towards building an OL. Not every one of our 30 or so coaches was sent to the combine.

He's Boilermaker.
Lots of South Benders applauding Alt too.

[Formula 21]

A couple of guys here who've apparently looked at the chart say that the Bolts would most likely only get a 3rd round pick for dropping from #5 to #8.

Maybe that changes if the trade partner's target is a QB.

I wouldn’t want to miss out on Nabers for an extra 3. 3s aren’t guaranteed to do anything as a pro. I’d want a much high probability of getting a starter if I trade down from 5.

[Bolt4Knob]

In as far as trade value points go, double trading down does nothing. If you going to go from lets say #5 to #13 you net 550 points.
If you trade #5 for #8 you net 300 points. If you then trade #8 for #13 you net 250 points. Total 550, same thing.

BUT if you trade #5 for #13 because they want a QB, then you net more than trading down twice, because the 2nd trade will not be for a QB.

In your scenario above - that does make sense. Especially trading with the Raiders - that would add a bunch right there.

I would be pretty good with trading back to Atlanta - I think dropping from 5 to 13 is pretty damn far. Again, my price to the Raiders is 2 1's and 2 2's

[charger1_sj]

That shows the commitment this team has towards building an OL. Not every one of our 30 or so coaches was sent to the combine.

OR maybe because we actually need a center. My memory says Hardwick was our center back in the day.

[Bolt4Knob]

I wouldn’t want to miss out on Nabers for an extra 3. 3s aren’t guaranteed to do anything as a pro. I’d want a much high probability of getting a starter if I trade down from 5.

The Chargers would get more than a third to drop from 5 to 8 - or at least they should

I wouldn't drop to 7 for a 3rd - only to 5 for an extra 3rd

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

In your scenario above - that does make sense. Especially trading with the Raiders - that would add a bunch right there.

I would be pretty good with trading back to Atlanta - I think dropping from 5 to 13 is pretty damn far. Again, my price to the Raiders is 2 1's and 2 2's

I'd be inclined to do it for that price, too.

[Bolt4Knob]

I'd be inclined to do it for that price, too.

And that has nothing to with the point chart. I think the point chart is 550 points so something like an extra 2 and 4

But this is the Raiders and presumably trading up for QB - so between division rival and the position they want - they pay a premium

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

The law of supply and demand always applies, so if there are multiple teams wanting to move up to the Chargers pick for a QB, that would figure to elevate the trade value of the #5 pick.

Let's say Hortiz has offers from both the Vikings (at #11) and the Raiders (at #13). If I'm Hortiz? I'm going to insist on considerably more from the Raiders than from the Vikings, because I'd rather not assist a division opponent without collecting a premium for it.

[charger1_sj]

In your scenario above - that does make sense. Especially trading with the Raiders - that would add a bunch right there.

I would be pretty good with trading back to Atlanta - I think dropping from 5 to 13 is pretty damn far. Again, my price to the Raiders is 2 1's and 2 2's

Your scenario is not a double trade down. It's going from #5 to #13. Which will net us more than doing a double trade down.

[charger1_sj]

And that has nothing to with the point chart. I think the point chart is 550 points so something like an extra 2 and 4

But this is the Raiders and presumably trading up for QB - so between division rival and the position they want - they pay a premium

Bingo. #5 to #13 is going to net us more than if we trade to Atlanta and then trade again to the Raiders. The caveat being no QBs worth the
#8 spot because the good ones are gone.

[Bolt4Knob]

Bingo. #5 to #13 is going to net us more than if we trade to Atlanta and then trade again to the Raiders. The caveat being no QBs worth the
#8 spot because the good ones are gone.

Right =- it is the trading for a QB first that gets the bigger bang. And second, when you add the Raiders to the mix.

Now Russell Wilson was just released - what team will sign him and will he want to stick it to the Broncos by signing a vet minimum contract.

[charger1_sj]

Right =- it is the trading for a QB first that gets the bigger bang. And second, when you add the Raiders to the mix.

Now Russell Wilson was just released - what team will sign him and will he want to stick it to the Broncos by signing a vet minimum contract.

So may come down to fleecing Atlanta, Denver, Las Vegas, Minny or who else versus taking Alt or some other OT, Nabors or some other WR or Bowers. Or
we may even draft an edge guy.

Lots of possibilities there. For us this is probably going to be the most interesting draft since AJ pulled off the Manning trade.