2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[ChargerTrader]

I am fearlessly mocking him to us @ #5, Nutty.
beach was all over it early.
Perfect fit.
Natural position is ORT.
Team Interviews are off the charts.
This guy lives the game of football.

Fuaga at #11 just makes so much sense

[Cdn Bolt]

You were talking about health of Charges draft picks, not success rates.

But if we are doing just overall risk, there is some survivor bias in there. The non premium positions have a higher hit rate because you have to be an Uber prospect to be taken there. Example, a team may take a WR with a second round grade in the mid to late 1st if they have big upside like Johnston because if you hit the reward is a cheap great player at an impact position. A team isn't taking an OG or DT in the mid to late first if they don't have a 1st round grade on them.

It's not a meaningless stat, if you are deciding between a guy at a premium position you have a lower grade on vs a higher grade at a less risky position, maybe that's a good route breaker. But when you're looking at a higher graded player at a premium position then I think the team should go in that direction.

IMO the top 3 WRs are 3 of the 4 highest graded players in this class. Bowers is also graded highly, but TE isn't a premium position and is risky in the first round.

Health and success rate are related. I have read other articles along the same lines. Wr is just generally a riskier position w rnd 1 picks. Another article w bust rate over 25 yrs


Which Positions Are the Safest, Riskiest at the Top of the NFL Draft? | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

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[eaterfan]

IOL, DT, LB in the recent past are positions that have been devalued - so you don't get a lot of reaches for players from these positions in the 1rst.

You have to be an absolute stud to generally be drafted that high: Zion Johnson being the exception.

Very true! I think Zion was a very good prospect, but not at a generational type level. That was a really rough draft because the Chargers were just past the line where the talent dropped off and no QBs were forced up the board. I do have hope for Zion because of how good a prospect he was. Maybe the bye scheme will help him out.

FTR, I was against picking Zion there because of the positional value. He has had a decent first two seasons, but the Chargers could have gotten that level of play from a FA without breaking the bank. He needed to be better than he is. I had him graded higher than how he has played, but he needed to hit his eval to be a good pick.

[Boltnut]

So RT Fuaga and LB Edgerrin Cooper might be a safe bet...?

[Boltnut]

Leaving no stone unturned, here is the unspeakable.

Should we draft Alt @ #5
To play OLT ?

Then trade Rashawn for medium, high draft picks.

We would stave off for a handful of years the need to pay an expensive franchise OLT contract.

I would love to have both Alt and Slater for the next 5 years.
Having Alt during Slater's 2nd contract negotiation is a valuable thing in itself.
Having both on the roster for the next 5 years allows to see if this new-fangled philosophy of "Protect the QB and Run the ball" works out.

[Formula 21]

We will still be debating the 2024 Draft years from now.
And rightfully so.
I will embrace whoever we end up with.
The Chargers are at a fateful fork in the road.

I’m hoping we’re celebrating the 2024 draft years from now.

This has the potential to be a franchise direction changing draft. This draft provides the foundation of our future SB run. Hortiz, show us what you got.

[Formula 21]

WR is one of the more risky postions to draft in Rnd 1. per this article LB , OL, DT and IOL are the most successful.

Assessing First-Round NFL Draft Picks By Approximate Value | The 33rd Team

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Nice find. LB is so valuable because it includes Edge (OLB). So it’s a little misleading.

[wu-dai clan]

Fuaga at #11 just makes so much sense

This is the trade I clamor for. MHJ as the new DHop for Kyler makes absolutely perfect sense too, kicking it all in. Oops along with NE just taking a QB like they should.

[wu-dai clan]

I’m hoping we’re celebrating the 2024 draft years from now.

This has the potential to be a franchise direction changing draft. This draft provides the foundation of our future SB run. Hortiz, show us what you got.

I must not watch any more Nabors, MHJ Bowers or Turner tape. Damn.

[eaterfan]

Nice find. LB is so valuable because it includes Edge (OLB). So it’s a little misleading.

Thanks for sharing that. I was shocked, because LB is usually so hard to project, see Queen and Murray. The position is so hard to learn because you have to be able to play the run and pass at a high level. They take a long time time to develope because of how mentally challenging it is. TE is similar on the offensive side. Meanwhile, edge rusher is a lot easier to scout and it's a premium position.

[Formula 21]

Leaving no stone unturned, here is the unspeakable.

Should we draft Alt @ #5
To play OLT ?

Then trade Rashawn for medium, high draft picks.

We would stave off for a handful of years the need to pay an expensive franchise OLT contract.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Alt is still in the bush.

[Formula 21]

I must not watch any more Nabors, MHJ Bowers or Turner tape. Damn.

I wouldn’t stop doing any of the fun stuff.