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  • Icebolt
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    • Mar 2023
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    What I took from Horvitz is that no deal has been done. It will be last minute. Also I see 2 things about his presser.
    1] He is good at playing pokers ( or not good-time will tell us )
    2] They like who they have at #5 and will are comfortable taking him unless they get a haul

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    • charger1_sj
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      Originally posted by Icebolt View Post
      What I took from Horvitz is that no deal has been done. It will be last minute. Also I see 2 things about his presser.
      1] He is good at playing pokers ( or not good-time will tell us )
      2] They like who they have at #5 and will are comfortable taking him unless they get a haul
      It's almost aways that way unless some deal is made way before the draft, and for good reason. Teams do talk about possible
      trades, but they often do not materialize on draft day. Scenarios change and one surprise move can reck the best laid plans.

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      • dmac_bolt
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        Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

        Nabers did most of his damage against Alabama from the slot. He matched up against Arnold on a handful of plays. Made two receptions. One
        was a short catch and Arnold had him well covered. The other was a much deeper sideline catch where Nabers made a pretty good catch.
        Nabers was almost never matched up with Kool Aid in that game. Kool Aid was busy with Thomas.

        Nabers major production throughout the year was in the slot where he is almost not coverable. From there he will burn the best CBs as it gives
        him moves he can make inside or out. That's why Alabama played him in zone, which was not successful. On the outside Nabers can still beat
        you deep due to his speed. But the sidelines tend to limit what he can do against the better CBs.

        To say he's not a top 10 guy in the draft is naive. He's just a different player than MH2 or Odunze.
        I'd love to see him gain 171 yards out of the slot for LAC. uncoverable sounds like a good thing to me. thx
        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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        • DerwinBosa
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          Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

          Nabers did most of his damage against Alabama from the slot. He matched up against Arnold on a handful of plays. Made two receptions. One
          was a short catch and Arnold had him well covered. The other was a much deeper sideline catch where Nabers made a pretty good catch.
          Nabers was almost never matched up with Kool Aid in that game. Kool Aid was busy with Thomas.

          Nabers major production throughout the year was in the slot where he is almost not coverable. From there he will burn the best CBs as it gives
          him moves he can make inside or out. That's why Alabama played him in zone, which was not successful. On the outside Nabers can still beat
          you deep due to his speed. But the sidelines tend to limit what he can do against the better CBs.

          To say he's not a top 10 guy in the draft is naive. He's just a different player than MH2 or Odunze.
          Ah, it's naive now to say Malik Nabers is not a top ten player in this draft.

          Six more days.

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          • Chargers8491
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            Out of the top 3 WRs it depends on what the Chargers are looking for at WR. You have 2 that are pure X and one that is multi-role. If they want a pure X they will either take MHJ or Odunze and if they want a multi-role WR they will take Nabers.

            Hortiz has said many times he prefers multi-role WRs which leads to me to believe if they stick and pick #5 and choose Nabers but I personally like Odunze the best out of the 3. Hortiz mentioned during his presser they are look for players that are competitive. IMHO, Odunze is the most competitive of the 3. He was the only one that attended the combine and he stayed late running the 3 cone drill to better his time. Out of the 3 I would take him in heartbeat.
            1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
            2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
            2b- #37 Jenkins DT
            3a- #66 Puni OT
            3b- #69 Sainristill CB
            4a- #105 Rice WR
            4b- #110 Lloyd RB
            5- #140 Green CB
            6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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            • eaterfan
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              Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
              Out of the top 3 WRs it depends on what the Chargers are looking for at WR. You have 2 that are pure X and one that is multi-role. If they want a pure X they will either take MHJ or Odunze and if they want a multi-role WR they will take Nabers.

              Hortiz has said many times he prefers multi-role WRs which leads to me to believe if they stick and pick #5 and choose Nabers but I personally like Odunze the best out of the 3. Hortiz mentioned during his presser they are look for players that are competitive. IMHO, Odunze is the most competitive of the 3. He was the only one that attended the combine and he stayed late running the 3 cone drill to better his time. Out of the 3 I would take him in heartbeat.
              I think this is a bit of a misread of the situation... Marvin Harrison Jr. did play in the slot a bit and was very successful from there. He definitely has multi-role potential. I think Odunze does, too. I think Nabers is the more limited of the 3 because he had more trouble beating press-man coverage more than the other two. Also, I think having the true X opens up the slot for other options. Palmer could be the multi-role receiver because he can be the power slot or play the Z. Maybe this is throwing good money after bad, but QJ should be lining up in the slot almost exclusively. He has really struggled against press-man. Way more than Nabers. If they want to salvage anything from him, I think picking the X will allow that to happen more.

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              • charger1_sj
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                Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

                Ah, it's naive now to say Malik Nabers is not a top ten player in this draft.

                Six more days.
                Well we've seen plenty of 1st round WRs bust. So nobody knows how any of these WR guys play out in the NFL.

                But if you believe Nabers is not going to be drafted in the top 10, then that is naive.

                In other words he is top ten talent coming out. But if you're asking if he's going to be a star or bust in the NFL,
                then that's a very different question which neither you or I can be certain of.

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                • Chargers8491
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                  I did a mock draft with mostly Michigan players with no trades. This one is a trade down with Cards like the one in my sig:

                  #11 Bowers TE
                  #35 Wilson WR- Michigan
                  #37 Sainristil CB- Michigan
                  #66 Jenkins DT- Michigan
                  #69 Colson LB- Michigan
                  #105 Corum RB- Michigan
                  # 110 Keegan OG- Michigan
                  # 140 Barrett LB- Michigan
                  # 181 Barner TE- Michigan
                  # 225 Barnhart OT- Michigan
                  # 253 Nugent OC- Michigan

                  When you look at it, it's not a bad draft at all.
                  1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
                  2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
                  2b- #37 Jenkins DT
                  3a- #66 Puni OT
                  3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                  4a- #105 Rice WR
                  4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                  5- #140 Green CB
                  6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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                  • SuperChargedRodney37
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                    Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

                    If your asking my opinion on who I would take given that MH2, Nabers and Odunze all there I would take MH2 and I'll tell you why.

                    #1 He is a better prospect than Odunze. Although I do like Odunze, MH2 is the more polished WR and can do everything well.

                    #2 MH2 over Nabers. Not necessarily because of talent. Nabers is an athletic freak. He's explosive and a dangerous after the
                    catch because of his speed. But a leg injury can take away a big part of his game. MH2 is the bigger guy and he doesn't necessarily
                    rely on athletic ability as much as Naber does. Probably will have a longer shelf life.

                    With that said I'd be OK with any of those three.

                    I do think Bowers would be the best fit for what Harbaugh wants to do. But @5 he will not be BPA.

                    Betting odds favor us taking Nabers assuming we stay @5.
                    Thanks Charger1

                    That's how I have my board.
                    MHJ 1A
                    Nabers 1B
                    Odunze 2
                    Bowers 3 (Trade Back to #9 with Chicago)

                    I'm not taking anybody else with our 1st pick.

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
                      I did a mock draft with mostly Michigan players with no trades. This one is a trade down with Cards like the one in my sig:

                      #11 Bowers TE
                      #35 Wilson WR- Michigan
                      #37 Sainristil CB- Michigan
                      #66 Jenkins DT- Michigan
                      #69 Colson LB- Michigan
                      #105 Corum RB- Michigan
                      # 110 Keegan OG- Michigan
                      # 140 Barrett LB- Michigan
                      # 181 Barner TE- Michigan
                      # 225 Barnhart OT- Michigan
                      # 253 Nugent OC- Michigan

                      When you look at it, it's not a bad draft at all.
                      I don't see anything in your sig 🤔

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                      • Chargers8491
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                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                        I don't see anything in your sig 🤔
                        You don't see mine in my sig? It was done before yours.
                        1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
                        2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
                        2b- #37 Jenkins DT
                        3a- #66 Puni OT
                        3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                        4a- #105 Rice WR
                        4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                        5- #140 Green CB
                        6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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                        • Chargers8491
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                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          I don't see anything in your sig 🤔
                          This is the one that should be in my sig:


                          1- #11 Bowers TE
                          2a- #35 Cooper LB
                          2b- #37 Fiske DT
                          3a- #66 Puni OT
                          3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                          4a- #105 Rice WR
                          4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                          5- #140 Green CB
                          6- #181 Nourzad C/OG
                          7a- #225 Boyd DT
                          7b- #253 Vidal RB
                          1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
                          2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
                          2b- #37 Jenkins DT
                          3a- #66 Puni OT
                          3b- #69 Sainristill CB
                          4a- #105 Rice WR
                          4b- #110 Lloyd RB
                          5- #140 Green CB
                          6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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