And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[gzubeck]

I agree 100%.

but if they don't pick Bowers or Verse with the 5th pick I'm done with Hortiz and Harbaugh...idiots!

Maybe useful idiots with a receiver they like?

[Boltjolt]

I agree 100%.

but if they don't pick Bowers or Verse with the 5th pick I'm done with Hortiz and Harbaugh...idiots!

Thats the spirit

[beachcomber]

don't think you announce to the world that your pick is the new No. 1 overall.... unless you want to trade down ??

[beachcomber]

if Maye goes two, and McCarthy three, and Az goes Marvin, and Jayden is the odd man out.... do you trade w/TT ??

is his second and third enough for you ?? is a 2025 third enough on top of that for those of you who want to fleece him ??

if I'm Telesco, that's where I draw the line.... basically getting an extra third rounder in value from them.

personally think a 2025 first is a hare brained fantasy.... do you want a WR or the two day two picks and change ??

[beachcomber]

DeCosta rumored to value fifth year option from first round selections.... food for thought re: keeping 11 & 23, rather than trading the latter for two day two picks.... just sayin' ??

[beachcomber]

doesn't sound like the Giants are gonna draft QB.... no trade up w/Az or us for that matter ??

[boltfanseattle]

Joe Alt is the pick.

[BigBad]

At first, I thought that you were saying that (1) you refuse to fall in love with a prospect, and (2) you refuse to trust Hortiz and Harbaugh to do what's best..

I now understand that while you inadvertently implied (2), that it isn't what you meant.

LOL...what?!!!

[MagicMamba88]

[BigBad]

I guess nobody should ever draft QBs in the top 10 either

59 QBs have been drafted in the top 10 since 1990 — only four of those QBs went on to earn First Team All-Pro Honors.

• Peyton Manning (#1)
• Matt Ryan (#3)
• Cam Newton (#1)
• Patrick Mahomes (#10)

[eaterfan]

I guess nobody should ever draft QBs in the top 10 either

59 QBs have been drafted in the top 10 since 1990 — only four of those QBs went on to earn First Team All-Pro Honors.

• Peyton Manning (#1)
• Matt Ryan (#3)
• Cam Newton (#1)
• Patrick Mahomes (#10)

How many have signed second contacts with their team? How many threw for 4,500 yards in a season?

Seems odd to not go through the rest of the metrics. Also, I love that you changed all-pro when it comes to TE to 1st team all pro for QBs. You know the argument is bad when you have to change the standards to make your argument seem good.

It also totally ignores the value of a good QB compared to a good TE.

It also ignores the inverse.

[dmac_bolt]

How many have signed second contacts with their team? How many threw for 4,500 yards in a season?

Seems odd to not go through the rest of the metrics. Also, I love that you changed all-pro when it comes to TE to 1st team all pro for QBs. You know the argument is bad when you have to change the standards to make your argument seem good.

It also totally ignores the value of a good QB compared to a good TE.

It also ignores the inverse.

I agree the quick QB comparison is not compelling theater, at least its not to me.

But it sounds to me from the initiating tweet that a lot of bad TEs were picked. yeah, so? The mentioned data is strictly a TE vs TE comparison - assuming the outcome of future TE picks seems iffy, idunno - what does it mean - that Rd3, Rd4, Rd5 TEs will always be better than Rd1 TEs in future drafts?

that has no logical sense to it.

meh. its a trivia answer imo.