Originally posted by Chargers8491
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And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion
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I love a standout WR...the Chargers have a history of them and that's what we have always loved about them...starting with Alworth to JJ to Keenan...but times have changed. If the QB has no time to throw the ball a great receiver does not matter..so I think you gotta build the team from the inside(OL and DL) out...add the "top 10" receivers last after you have that.
Ravens kind of did that. For a long time I used to think, the Ravens have no receivers...then they started drafting some speed burners there. Look at Philly...supposed to have the best OL/DL's in the league..very easy to add some WR to that... yeah to me its kinda boring like watching paint dry...but it pays off IMO.
Receivers are probably the least valuable players on the team. And I hate to say that. But their are a ton of guys out there who can get open and catch a ball. Supply and Demand.
Ah...forgot Gary Garrison. The coolest.
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Originally posted by QuiteFrankly View PostI love a standout WR...the Chargers have a history of them and that's what we have always loved about them...starting with Alworth to JJ to Keenan...but times have changed. If the QB has no time to throw the ball a great receiver does not matter..so I think you gotta build the team from the inside(OL and DL) out...add the "top 10" receivers last after you have that.
Ravens kind of did that. For a long time I used to think, the Ravens have no receivers...then they started drafting some speed burners there. Look at Philly...supposed to have the best OL/DL's in the league..very easy to add some WR to that... yeah to me its kinda boring like watching paint dry...but it pays off IMO.
Receivers are probably the least valuable players on the team. And I hate to say that. But their are a ton of guys out there who can get open and catch a ball. Supply and Demand.
Ah...forgot Gary Garrison. The coolest.
They drafted some busts like Torrey Smith, Tanden Doss, Breshard Perriman, Miles Boykin, Devurney, Marquise Brown had been ok and traded and Bateman who I liked hasn't been that great ...and injured often.
They have drafted TEs in the first, second and third rounds that haven't worked out.
So they have drafted well over time but they have had some whiffs too.1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina ✓
4. CJ West DT Indiana
5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Ravens didn't have good receivers for a time.
They drafted some busts like Torrey Smith, Tanden Doss, Breshard Perriman, Miles Boykin, Devurney, Marquise Brown had been ok and traded and Bateman who I liked hasn't been that great ...and injured often.
They have drafted TEs in the first, second and third rounds that haven't worked out.
So they have drafted well over time but they have had some whiffs too.
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Originally posted by QuiteFrankly View Post
You get whiffs with receivers...any Chargers come to mind? Anyway...Ravens have some decent guys now...but of course its not their forte.
Our GM just wasn't good at finding good ones in the mid rounds.
Hope the new GM does but he is stuck with our scouting staff unless he brings in new ones.1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina ✓
4. CJ West DT Indiana
5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama
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not gonna be surprised if Harrison falls into our laps, as for some reason see Odunze as pairing/matching up w/Kyler Murray really well.... ??ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza
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not in the pass catcher camp, albeit do think Nabers is a better fit than the others, as see him lining up in the slot between QJ 'n Palmer.... ??
he also seems to be more of a longterm Keenan replacement.... ??ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza
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re: the trade down scenario/possiblity.... still thinkin' that NO is the most likely candidate.... would they trade up for a wideout, and given that the top 3 QBs are off the board ??
@14 all WRs are off the board
is Byron Murphy off the board ??
is Laiatu off the board ??
is Jer'Zhan Newton worth taking ahead of the others there ??
is Fuaga still on the board @14 ??
still leaning pass rusher over pass catchers and Oline....
think WR/CB is a big bad mistake round one.... need a pass rusher/Dline disruptor round one.... thinking SB.ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza
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Jeremiah has Fuaga @10, Byron Murphy @11.... that's my lean @5 for us.
personal suspicion is that Taliese is a need pick, and that Murphy could well be BPA ??
Latu, Jer'Zhan, Verse & Trice all seem to be falling off....ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza
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Originally posted by beachcomber View PostJeremiah has Fuaga @10, Byron Murphy @11.... that's my lean @5 for us.
personal suspicion is that Taliese is a need pick, and that Murphy could well be BPA ??
Latu, Jer'Zhan, Verse & Trice all seem to be falling off....Time to put my money where my mouth is: Hampton will be better than Jeanty!
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Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
He also has Bowers going #15 to the Colts. There will be some good talent should the Chargers decide to trade back. I wouldn't go to far back though.
Laiatu & Jer'Zhan have had the lead (for me) for most of this draft season, and.... no one had Byron Murphy coming out, and.... now he has.
if we draft back 2 back Texas tackles.... won't be shedding any tears.ED Matayo Uiagalelei, DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, CB Domani Jackson, OG Earnest Greene III, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
TE Jelani Woods, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, P Matt Araiza
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