And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[northerner]

Malik wants be a Charger.

There is something that does not add up.
Harbaugh publically stated that should QBs go 1-4 we would essentially have the first pick.
So we would pick Nabers over MHJ ?
Interesting.
Nabers to Chargers is leaked.
LOL.
Now that Jimbo has ginned up JJ McCarthy's value, does he want enhance trade offers for Nabers @ #5 ?
It just does not add up.
Lots of possibilities.

every 10th post here states that it is liar's month, and the other 9 of 10 posts fall for some bait.

[Boltx]

Brett Kollman is coming to the realization that eve if MHJ is there, barring an overwhelming trade offer, the Chargers will take Alt.

I am trying to prepare you.

I've also thought about this possibility and while not exciting, I would get it.

I might be a tad disappointed but I'm trusting the process. That's why we begged Dean to hire these guys. Now let them work.

[wu-dai clan]

I've also thought about this possibility and while not exciting, I would get it.

I might be a tad disappointed but I'm trusting the process. That's why we begged Dean to hire these guys. Now let them work.

It is all very exciting to me.
The trade down scenerios are endless.
GB has extra twos.
Even Odunze would be an absolutely perfect pick.
He has elements of Slayer (very low dropped pass rate)
MW (very high contested pass rate)
He has elite deep speed.
Rome is a Harbaugh type of player (he lives the game of football)
I know this board has to be sick of me overhyping Alt.
I will try to shut up.
But remember, Hortiz is his own man.
He does not listen to wu.

[Kellyb72601]

I think a big time under the radar pick at #5 is Byron Murphy and that would also be the most Ravens like pick and anti-charger pick. I think there will also be big time discussions for taking one of the pass rushers. But you pair Byron Murphy with Tuli and the Dline pressure is set for the next 8-10 years.

People will say that's a reach at #5 but who gives a damn if you get the player you want? That kids tape is really really impressive. Defensive tackle has been the worst or one of the worst position groups on this roster for nearly 20 years now going all the way back to when Jamal W. got injured. That would send a strong statement that things are changing.

I don't think they will take Alt because Alt's agent & family will not want him playing right tackle.

[beachcomber]

I've also thought about this possibility and while not exciting, I would get it.

I might be a tad disappointed but I'm trusting the process. That's why we begged Dean to hire these guys. Now let them work.

am the opposite.... would feel darn good 'bout Fuaga as a Charger, and a tad surprised if we went pass catcher, and (@least a tad) disappointed as well.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

I think a big time under the radar pick at #5 is Byron Murphy and that would also be the most Ravens like pick and anti-charger pick. I think there will also be big time discussions for taking one of the pass rushers. But you pair Byron Murphy with Tuli and the Dline pressure is set for the next 8-10 years.

People will say that's a reach at #5 but who gives a damn if you get the player you want? That kids tape is really really impressive. Defensive tackle has been the worst or one of the worst position groups on this roster for nearly 20 years now going all the way back to when Jamal W. got injured. That would send a strong statement that things are changing.

I've thought about it *this* way: In 2011, J.J. Watt was selected by the Texans with the 11th overall pick.

Did anyone accuse the Texans of reaching with that pick? Given the player Watt turned out to be, he'd have been a bargain in the Top 5.

Likewise, if Byron Murphy is *that guy*, he'd be worth the #5 pick. Hortiz' and his staff's evaluations are everything here.

The Bolts' could so desperately use a Pro Bowl caliber player on the IDL, and if Murphy is that guy? I'd want him.

[wu-dai clan]

The Chargers are highly motivated to move down, almost completely aside from who is on the board @ #5.

The QBs and the big four are leverage to get the best trade(s) we can.

We seek several high midround selections.

Remember, we must have a willing trade partner when on the clock and under the circumstances we face.

High character, high football IQ is desired over athleticism per se.

It is time to get with the program.

BTW I invite anyone to post the vid of Joe Alt pancaking the Wolfpack LB, and then tdy to comvince me that Alt is a finesse player...so misunderstood lol.

Then, I dare you to say "fire the Strength and Conditioning Coach."

[blueman]

I think a big time under the radar pick at #5 is Byron Murphy and that would also be the most Ravens like pick and anti-charger pick. I think there will also be big time discussions for taking one of the pass rushers. But you pair Byron Murphy with Tuli and the Dline pressure is set for the next 8-10 years.

People will say that's a reach at #5 but who gives a damn if you get the player you want? That kids tape is really really impressive. Defensive tackle has been the worst or one of the worst position groups on this roster for nearly 20 years now going all the way back to when Jamal W. got injured. That would send a strong statement that things are changing.

I don't think they will take Alt because Alt's agent & family will not want him playing right tackle.

I get the sense Murphy is sliding up the boards..

Also I don’t think we trade down without trading back up, unless the trade down is to 6 lol. We won’t be drafting this high for a long, long time, grab the elite while you can. And we need elite at multiple positions much more than we need indiscriminate depth. Which would be fantastic if we already had multiple elite guys (only Mack and Herbert qualify IMHO, and Herbert couldn’t finish the season). Gotta have The Guy, as in The Guy, ya know?

[Jrock1970]

I think a big time under the radar pick at #5 is Byron Murphy and that would also be the most Ravens like pick and anti-charger pick. I think there will also be big time discussions for taking one of the pass rushers. But you pair Byron Murphy with Tuli and the Dline pressure is set for the next 8-10 years.

People will say that's a reach at #5 but who gives a damn if you get the player you want? That kids tape is really really impressive. Defensive tackle has been the worst or one of the worst position groups on this roster for nearly 20 years now going all the way back to when Jamal W. got injured. That would send a strong statement that things are changing.

I don't think they will take Alt because Alt's agent & family will not want him playing right tackle.

What about Dallas at #5 or Arnold if you're going D?

[SuperChargedRodney37]

What about Dallas at #5 or Arnold if you're going D?

Don't see a Defender worthy of the #5 pick in this draft. Especially, don't see Arnold as a day one CB1. I think people may be surprised where he goes but for sure outside the Top 10.

[Kellyb72601]

What about Dallas at #5 or Arnold if you're going D?

Because taking the interior defensive lineman fits the overall theme of more physicality in the trenches. They're looking at the roster and have to feel comfortable with Tuli being a good edge player the next ~10 years. You pair him with a guy that can wreck things inside that makes the entire front 7 tough ala Baltimores biggest rival Cam Heyward & TJ Watt - Tuli might not ever be TJ Watt but he's definitely an AFC North type of player that runs through people, wrecks the run, rushes the passer etc. They're gonna want a dominant inside presence to pair with that. If they don't take Murphy I think it's a good probability they take Chris Jenkins in the 2nd I know Harbaugh loves his attitude & work ethic & if they wanna target him they're gonna have to draft him higher than people think.

[jox g]

Why the pick will MOST LIKELY trade down:
a) Hortiz has a history of that.
b) #5 is attractive (for a QB OR WR - Nabers or MHJ should be there). Heck, someone may have a hard on for OT Alt
c) Harbaugh prioritizes the OL. So does Hortiz (It's NOT Telesco choosing another 1st Round WR ala Mike Williams, or QJ).

Harbaugh said the QB is MOST impt. OL is VERY impt too because it protects the MOST impt position. Makes sense to me...what do you think?

Therefore: They trade down to #11, Get a solid RT, then get a top CB @#23. Rd #2 DT Fiske (stop run and pass.) Rd #3 Let's go WR Brenden Rice. #4. RB Corum, Ray Davis or Bucky Irving. Other #4 DE. Half of these 6 picks are trenches.