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  • dmac_bolt
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    • May 2019
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    Convince me that Briningstool in round 4 is not better value as a Seambuster than Loveland in round one.

    Then there's my round seven Comp TEs. Kuithe + Prieskorn.

    I'll get you a bib so you don't mess the front of your Ladarius Green jersey.

    I want Warren. Briningstool is slower than Warren and weighs 20 pounds less. Why do you want a slow Parham, because of how he looks against shitty ACC teams? At least he’s not middle aged like Kuithe, who weighs in in the 230s and is 6’2”, shorter than QJ. That dude isn’t even an NFL TE, he’ll get crushed on the edge.

    if you want a seambuster in Briningstool, draft the actual seam buster Fannin in R2.

    Or just give Herbie more JAG TEs like he has had his entire career and get more of what we’ve got for the last 5 seasons. Don’t get any of your spicy mustard on your Tre McKitty tshirt.
    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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    • wu-dai clan
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      Derrick Henry.
      Saquon Barkley.
      Jahmyr Gibbs.
      Isaac Pacheco.
      James Conner.
      James Cook.
      Najee Harris.
      Bijan Robinson.
      Josh Jacobs.
      Alvin Kamara.
      Kenneth Walker III.
      Josh Jacobs.

      The RB is back.
      We play modern Harball.

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      • dmac_bolt
        JH3 and Me
        • May 2019
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        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
        Derrick Henry.
        Saquon Barkley.
        Jahmyr Gibbs.
        Isaac Pacheco.
        James Conner.
        James Cook.
        Najee Harris.
        Bijan Robinson.
        Josh Jacobs.
        Alvin Kamara.
        Kenneth Walker III.
        Josh Jacobs.

        The RB is back.
        Be interesting to see if it reverses the market trend in RB contracts. I’ve never bought the theory that RB talent doesnt matter or have a differential value.
        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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        • Topcat
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          • Jan 2019
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          Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

          That was the point I was getting at in asking my question about the 2nd round. The 2nd round is high draft capital where the Chargers can get very good talent at various positions of need. I believe you guys saying Majors is the best center in a weak center draft, but are you reaching in the 2nd round for him because we need a a center?
          I don't think Majors would be a reach in round 2...not with that stellar pass blocking grade...I think he slots right in round 2, and it's a huge PON for us...

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          • Topcat
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            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            I want Warren. Briningstool is slower than Warren and weighs 20 pounds less. Why do you want a slow Parham, because of how he looks against shitty ACC teams? At least he’s not middle aged like Kuithe, who weighs in in the 230s and is 6’2”, shorter than QJ. That dude isn’t even an NFL TE, he’ll get crushed on the edge.

            if you want a seambuster in Briningstool, draft the actual seam buster Fannin in R2.

            Or just give Herbie more JAG TEs like he has had his entire career and get more of what we’ve got for the last 5 seasons. Don’t get any of your spicy mustard on your Tre McKitty tshirt.
            Or, as Chick Hearn used to say, "the mustard is OFF the hot dog..."

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            • Topcat
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              Originally posted by electricgold View Post
              For the Chargers in round 1:

              Colston Loveland - TE, Michigan
              Jonah Savaiinae - OG-OT, Arizona
              Grey Zabel - OG-OC, North Dakota State
              Zabel might work as a G, having played both G and T...but I don't believe he's played at C, and I don't like position switch experiments...I'd rather draft a true C with a solid track record...if we can draft Jake Majors in round 2 and Dylan Fairchild is gone when we're up in round 3, I might consider Zabel, but as a G and possibly a backup T...

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              • DerwinBosa
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                • Feb 2022
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                Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                Derrick Henry.
                Saquon Barkley.
                Jahmyr Gibbs.
                Isaac Pacheco.
                James Conner.
                James Cook.
                Najee Harris.
                Bijan Robinson.
                Josh Jacobs.
                Alvin Kamara.
                Kenneth Walker III.
                Josh Jacobs.

                The RB is back.
                As much I respect J.K. Dobbins and his comeback, he can't be counted on long-term, given his injury history. I don't want to go into next season thinking he's without a doubt our top running back. On top of that, while he's been very good for us this year, he's not on the same level as most of those running backs you mentioned. One guy you don't have on your list is the Colts' Jonathan Taylor, who was drafted in the second round. When you put everything together, Dobbins is not a "franchise" running back.

                Next April seems like it will be a very good time to select a running back in the first or second round. While I don't believe Ashton Jeanty will be there when we're up in the first round, I don't want to leave the running back position unaddressed beyond the second round with the thought being, "Oh, we can just find one later." I DEFINITELY don't want to go beyond the third round. Since we lucked out with Austin Ekeler as an undrafted free agent in 2017, we got Joshua Kelley in the fourth round, Isaiah Spiller in the fourth round, Larry Rountree III in the sixth round, Justin Jackson in the seventh round, and Kimani Vidal in the sixth round. While Vidal is still a rookie who hasn't had many opportunities, the rest did not emerge as even reliable #2 running backs, so the whole belief that "oh, we can just find one later," is not appealing to me when the top ball-carriers in the 2025 NFL Draft appear to be capable of becoming very good at the NFL level.

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                • CanadianBoltFan
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                  • Jul 2022
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                  Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                  He’s kinda snarky when he scolds us, ain’t he? Telling us we don’t need a TE because we have Dissly is a non-starter, I don’t care how much snarky pompous shit he slathers on top of it. It’s a bad call to ignore the possible of Herbie with a ELITE TE because Dissly has been a mild upside surprise while trying to fill a HUGE cavernous hole left by the failure of Hurst to launch. Dissly is TE2 on a good roster, not TE1.
                  As I said before, I live in the pacific northwest, which for NFL coverage is Seahawk territory, our local stations are from Seattle. In fact many Canadian fans from Vancouver drive the 3 hours to Seattle to go to games, they are kinda the "home NFL team" in these parts...so I have watched Dissly closely for years.

                  He is a good blocking, decent pass catching TE2 on a good offensive team exactly like you say. He has been a nice story for the Chargers this year but he isnt scaring any defenses. This is his career year which means catching 35 passes for the first time EVER. Nuff said

                  I dont understand the aversion some posters here have about letting us have our stud TE!! lol Geesh you would think they never enjoyed Kellem Winslow or Antonio Gates...absolute studs! Or noticed Travis Kelce owning us for the past decade!

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    LT. LT. LT. LT.

                    DerwinBosa knows ball.
                    We play modern Harball.

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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                      Convince me that Briningstool in round 4 is not better value as a Seambuster than Loveland in round one.

                      Then there's my round seven Comp TEs. Kuithe + Prieskorn.

                      I'll get you a bib so you don't mess the front of your Ladarius Green jersey.

                      Ok will do,,,but I will use my boy, my first round preference BEAST Warren

                      Briningstool needs to improve his YAC production and ensure he consistently uses his hands to secure the ball. Due to his WR-like frame, his blocking is adequate but lacks the physicality to dominate at the line of scrimmage.

                      Briningstool has the potential to carve out a productive NFL career. As he continues to refine his skills, particularly in blocking and YAC, he could develop into a solid player for an NFL offense. Currently, I project him as a day 2 pick with a chance to become a starter, although a passing-down-only role seems more likely.

                      Warren is a complete all round TE who is a willing and effective blocker at 260 lbs not a wiry 245. He is a starting stud, a difference maker not a part time specialist who maybe one day will be a TE1. We have had enough of TE2 types of late

                      Production - Warren already has 75 catches for 910 yards this year and 6 TDs, not to mention his rushing TDS. Brock Bowers best season was 63 catches for 942 yards. Warren will beat that and likley get 1000 yards.

                      Briningstool, who doesnt carry the ball or pass the ball like Warren does, he doesnt block very well so he is a pass catching specialist TE...his production is 38 catches for 403 yards. These two players are not the same.

                      There is no better value for Briningstool in round 4 if he is just another average TE2 and not the blocking force or difference maker in the pass game our offense badly needs. The way Warren would affect our offence is very much worth a first round investment.

                      Furthermore, This is a fantastic RB crop, one of the best RB drafts in years. if you do it my way and take Warren in round 1 the RB you can get in round 4 is a much higher value impact player than Briningstool or any TE you can get in round 4.

                      Jake is around the 7th ranked TE at this time. Do you know who the 7th to 16th ranked RBs are? the likes of Dylan Sampson, TreVeyon Henderson, Nicolas Singleton, Devin Neal, Tahj Brooks, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Jonah Coleman, DJ Giddens, Kaleel Mullings

                      Some of those RBs will go in the 3rd, but some of them in the 4th and 5th. These are very good RBs with starting potential who would fit very nicely with Dobbins or whoever.

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                      • CanadianBoltFan
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                        • Jul 2022
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                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                        Derrick Henry.
                        Saquon Barkley.
                        Jahmyr Gibbs.
                        Isaac Pacheco.
                        James Conner.
                        James Cook.
                        Najee Harris.
                        Bijan Robinson.
                        Josh Jacobs.
                        Alvin Kamara.
                        Kenneth Walker III.
                        Josh Jacobs.

                        The RB is back.
                        It sure is and this is the best RB draft in years.

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          • May 2017
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                          Trade up for Jeanty.
                          An idea that should be considered.

                          We play Atlanta Sunday.
                          They drafted uber athletic Kyle Pitts @ #4 Overall lol.

                          The Falcons also drafted Bijan Robinson @ #8 Overall ftw.

                          As per the cycles of football, in which defenses now feature predominantly light boxes, with umbrella or "Palms" Coverages, running backs are featured.

                          We seem to want to draft Brock Bowers a year too late, as none of these TEs are at his level.

                          There are several running backs available late round one that I would consider late round one, at least as much as the tight ends, in this "tight end frenzy."

                          JMO.
                          We play modern Harball.

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