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  • like54ninjas
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    Trey Adams OL 6-8" 318 9 7/8" 34 3/8" 81 1/2" Washington
    Hakeem Adeniji OL 6-4 3/8" 302 10" 33 3/4" 82 3/8" Kansas
    Tremayne Anchrum OL 6-1 7/8" 314 9 5/8" 33 5/8" 80 1/2" Clemson
    Ben Bartch OL 6-5 3/4" 309 9" 32 7/8" 80 1/2" St. Johns (MN)
    Mekhi Becton OL 6-7 3/8" 364 10 3/4" 35 5/8" 83 1/4" Louisville
    Tyler Biadasz OL 6-3 5/8" 314 10" 32 1/4" 79 7/8" Wisconsin
    Ben Bredeson OL 6-4 5/8" 315 10 1/8" 31 1/8" 76 3/4" Michigan
    Cohl Cabral OL 6-4 7/8" 300 10" 32 1/4" 78 1/2" Arizona State
    Saahdiq Charles OL 6-4 1/8" 321 10" 33" 80 3/8" LSU
    Cameron Clark OL 6-4 1/2" 308 11" 34 1/8" 82 3/4" Charlotte
    Ezra Cleveland OL 6-6" 311 9" 33 3/8" 80 3/8" Boise St.
    Trystan Colon-Castillo OL 6'3" 313 9 1/4" 30 1/2" 76 1/2" Missouri
    Lloyd Cushenberry OL 6-3 1/8" 312 10 3/8" 34 1/8" 84 1/4" LSU
    Jack Driscoll OL 6-4 5/8" 306 9 7/8" 33" 78 1/2" Auburn
    Yasir Durant OL 6-6" 331 9 1/2" 34 3/4" 82 3/4" Missouri
    Jake Hanson OL 6-4 3/8" 303 9 1/4" 32 3/4" 78" Oregon
    Nick Harris OL 6-0 7/8" 302 9 3/4" 32 1/8" 77 1/2" Washington
    Charlie Heck OL 6-7 5/8" 311 10 1/4" 34 1/8" 82 1/4" North Carolina
    Matt Hennessy OL 6-3 7/8" 307 10" 32 1/4" 79 3/4" Temple
    Justin Herron OL 6-3 5/8" 308 8 7/8" 33 1/2" 80 1/2" Wake Forest
    Robert Hunt OL 6-5 1/8" 323 10 3/4" 33 1/2" 82" Louisiana-Lafayette
    Keith Ismael OL 6-2 7/8" 309 10" 32 1/4" 78 7/8" San Diego St.
    Cordel Iwuagwu OL 6-2 7/8" 309 10 1/8" 33 3/4" 81" TCU
    Austin Jackson OL 6-4 7/8" 322 10 1/4" 34 1/8" 82" USC
    Jonah Jackson OL 6-3 1/2" 306 10 1/2" 33 1/2" 77 7/8" Ohio St.
    Joshua Jones OL 6-5" 319 10 1/8" 33 7/8" 79 7/8" Houston
    Solomon Kindley OL 6-3 1/4" 337 10" 32 1/4" 77 3/4" Georgia
    Shane Lemieux OL 6-3 7/8" 310 9 1/2" 32 1/4" 77" Oregon
    Damien Lewis OL 6-2" 327 10 1/4" 33" 79 1/2" LSU
    Colton McKivitz OL 6-6 1/8" 306 10" 33 3/4" 81 5/8" West Virginia
    John Molchon OL 6-5 1/4" 309 9 1/2" 31 1/8" 76 1/2" Boise St.
    Kyle Murphy OL 6-3 1/4" 316 10" 33 7/8" 79 7/8" Rhode Island
    Netane Muti OL 6-2 7/8" 315 10 5/8" 31 3/4" 76 1/2" Fresno St.
    Lucas Niang OL 6-6 315 10 1/2" 34 1/4" 83 1/8" TCU
    Mike Onwenu OL 6-2 5/8" 344 10 1/2" 34 3/8" 82" Michigan
    Matt Peart OL 6-6 5/8" 318 9 1/2" 36 5/8" 86 1/2" Connecticut
    Tyre Phillips OL 6-5" 331 10 3/8" 35 1/8" 84 5/8" Mississippi St.
    Danny Pinter OL 6-4 1/4" 306 9 1/2" 31 7/8" 77 7/8" Ball St.
    Cesar Ruiz OL 6-2 3/4" 307 11" 33 1/8" 79 5/8" Michigan
    Jon Runyan OL 6-4 1/4" 306 9 1/8" 33 1/4" 79 5/8" Michigan
    John Simpson OL 6-4 1/8" 321 11 1/4" 34 1/8" 82 3/8" Clemson
    Terence Steele OL 6-5 7/8" 312 9 1/2" 35 1/8" 85 1/2" Texas Tech
    Logan Stenberg OL 6-6" 317 10 1/4" 32 1/2" 80" Kentucky
    Simon Stepaniak OL 6-4 1/8" 313 10 3/8" 32" 79 7/8" Indiana
    Alex Taylor OL 6-8 3/8" 308 11 1/4" 36 1/8" 88" South Carolina St.
    Andrew Thomas OL 6-5 1/8" 315 10 1/4" 36 1/8" 83 1/2" Georgia
    Calvin Throckmorton OL 6-5" 317 9 1/2" 32 1/2" 77 7/8" Oregon
    Prince Tega Wanogho OL 6-5" 308 10 3/8" 33 1/2" 80 3/4" Auburn
    Darryl Williams OL 6-2 3/8" 304 9 3/4" 32 1/8" 77 7/8" Mississippi St.
    Jedrick Wills OL 6-4 1/4" 312 10" 34 1/4" 83 1/2" Alabama
    Isaiah Wilson OL 6-6 1/2" 350 10 1/4" 35 1/2" 84 3/8" Georgia
    Tristan Wirfs OL 6-4 7/8" 320 10 1/4" 34" 80 1/4" Iowa
    Tyler Bass K 5-10 1/2" 185 8 3/4" 29 1/2" 71 1/2" Georgia Southern
    Rodrigo Blankenship K 6-1" 190 9" 30 5/8" 73 1/8" Georgia
    J.J. Molson K 5-11 1/4" 182 9 1/2" 30 3/4" 73 3/8" UCLA
    Blake Ferguson LS 6-2 5/8" 229 9 3/4" 31 3/8" 75 3/4" LSU
    Steven Wirtel LS 6-3 3/4" 235 9 3/8" 31 1/8" 75 3/8" Iowa State
    Joseph Charlton P 6-4 1/2" 195 8 1/2" 32 3/8" 78 1/4" South Carolina
    Sterling Hofrichter P 5-9 5/8" 196 8 5/8" 29 3/8" 71 1/2" Syracuse
    Braden Mann P 5-11 3/8" 198 9 1/4" 30" 73 7/8" Texas A&M
    Alex Pechin P 6-0 5/8" 213 9 3/8" 29 5/8" 72 1/4" Bucknell
    Arryn Siposs P 6-2 1/2" 213 9 1/4" 32" 76 3/8" Auburn
    Tommy Townsend P 6-1 3/8" 191 9 1/8" 32 1/8" 76 1/2" Florida
    Michael Turk P 6-0 1/2" 226 9 7/8" 31 1/8" 76" Arizona State
    Salvon Ahmed RB 5-10 7/8" 197 8 3/4" 29 1/4" 71 5/8" Washington
    Cam Akers RB 5-10 3/8" 217 9" 30 5/8" 74 5/8" Florida St.
    Jet Anderson RB 5-10 1/2" 208 9 5/8" 30 1/2" 74 3/8" TCU
    LeVante Bellamy RB 5-8 7/8" 192 8 3/4" 30 1/4" 73 7/8" Western Michigan
    Eno Benjamin RB 5-8 7/8" 207 8 5/8" 31 1/4" 76" Arizona State
    Raymond Calais RB 5'7 7/8" 188 9 1/4" 30" 73 3/4" Louisiana-Lafayette
    DeeJay Dallas RB 5-10 1/8" 217 9 1/4" 30 5/8" 74 1/4" Miami
    AJ Dillon RB 6-0 3/8" 247 9 5/8" 31 5/8" 77 5/8" Boston College
    J.K. Dobbins RB 5-9 1/2" 209 9 1/2" 29 3/4" 73 1/2" Ohio St.
    Rico Dowdle RB 5-11 2/8" 213 9 4/8" 31 3/8" 75 5/8" South Carolina
    Clyde Edwards-Helaire RB 5-7 2/8" 207 9 5/8" 29" 70 5/8" LSU
    Darrynton Evans RB 5-10 1/8" 203 9 2/8" 31 5/8" 76 5/8" Appalachian St.
    JaMycal Hasty RB 5-8" 205 9 1/8" 31 1/8" 74 4/8" Baylor
    Brian Herrien RB 5-11 1/8" 209 9" 29 6/8" 73 6/8" Georgia
    Tony Jones RB 5-10 4/8" 220 9 4/8" 30 5/8" 74 1/8" Notre Dame
    Joshua Kelley RB 5-10 5/8" 212 9 5/8" 31 5/8" 76 2/8" UCLA
    Javon Leake RB 6-0 1/8" 215 9 5/8" 31 4/8" 75 6/8" Maryland
    Benny LeMay RB 5-8 1/8" 221 9" 29 7/8" 72 4/8" Charlotte
    Anthony McFarland RB 5-8 1/8" 208 8 7/8" 30 3/8" 73 3/8" Maryland
    Zack Moss RB 5-9 3/8" 223 9 2/8" 31 2/8" 75 4/8" Utah
    Sewo Olonilua RB 6-2 5/8" 232 10" 32 1/8" 78 1/8" TCU
    La'Mical Perine RB 5-10 6/8" 216 10 2/8" 31 5/8" 76 3/8" Florida
    Scottie Phillips RB 5-8" 209 8 4/8" 29 3/8" 70 2/8" Mississippi
    James Robinson RB 5-9" 219 8 6/8" 29 5/8" 72 4/8" Illinois St.
    D'Andre Swift RB 5-8 2/8" 212 9" 29 7/8" 72" Georgia
    J.J. Taylor RB 5-5 2/8" 185 8 4/8" 28 6/8" 71 2/8" Arizona
    Jonathan Taylor RB 5-10 2/8" 226 9 4/8" 31 1/8" 75 3/8" Wisconsin
    Patrick Taylor RB 6-1 4/8" 217 9 3/8" 32 2/8" 75 5/8" Memphis
    Ke'Shawn Vaughn RB 5-9 5/8" 214 8 7/8" 30 7/8" 73 4/8" Vanderbilt
    Mike Warren RB 5-9 1/8" 226 9 1/8" 29 4/8" 71 4/8" Cincinnati
    My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

    MikeDub
    K9
    Nasir
    Tillery
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    • like54ninjas
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      Durant, Niang, Becton, A. Thomas, Wills, Peart, I. Wilson, Adams, A. Jackson, A. Taylor, C. Heck
      Crushenberry, Ruiz, Wirfs, T. Phillips, J. Runyan, Adeniji, Stenberg, R. Hunt, Herron, Biadiaz, Driscoll, C. Clark, J. Hanson, J. Jackson, Iwuagwu

      Checked off height, length, reach metrics for me.
      Last edited by like54ninjas; 02-25-2020, 12:09 PM. Reason: Added prospects
      My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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      • Lone Bolt
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        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

        There are a lot of assumptions in here. Maybe some are true but I don’t know. Haven’t read anyone here that actually knows. Its not directed at you, this is a prevailing theme across the TPB forum, maybe its true but every time I ask all I get are opinions and challenges.

        - does AL sign all players? Do John jr and TT just step aside and let AL pick all players he wants, including Stick? Did TT want to sign Fitz and AL vetoed him? I doubt that
        - is handing off to your 1st Rdr Feature RB at the 1 such a unique play call, it signifies some deeper meaning? Does AL even call those plays?
        - If LAC runs a pass play inside the RZ and some routes are into the EZ and others are not, and Phil checks it down - does that mean AL hates throwing the ball into the EZ and ergo he really wants a running QB? How do these things all connect?
        - is AL the first coach to want a balanced run-pass attack? Did LAC actually run A lot more than they pass by some measure different than the league at large, or did they actually run less than many teams?
        - Is it desirable / effective to have a offense that can pass but is unable to run the ball? Isn’t that what LAC had for several years, going nowhere?
        - is Tyrod a running QB? A bit but not really. Was Cardale Or Geno? No.

        And I’ll end my question list with ...

        - isn’t the assumption he WAS a RB coach so therefore he can only want a running QB demeaning and insultingly simple? Is it a diminishment of his intelligence or ability to presume that because he was a RB coach, he can’t think in any other mode or concept now he is HC?

        I think he wants a mobile QB that adds a dimension, especially after watching for years his QB unable to stumble to the gatoraid table and get a drink. I think every HC wants that now if there’s the option. I don’t translate that into he cares more about a QB running than passing. I also dont presume he wants an option spread RPO running QB who is going to wildcat and pitch the ball all day long.

        If anyone can show me where he’s said this, or anything like this, I’d welcome my continued education. I clearly have a lot to learn from y’all.
        Of course there are assumptions....and deductions....and speculation...all fuel for fan based debates....otherwise you gotta bunch of people just stating the truth....that no one on here really has a clue. Where is the fun in that?


        Some folks take this shit too seriously....
        Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB

        Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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        • sonorajim
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          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          There are a lot of assumptions in here. Maybe some are true but I don’t know. Haven’t read anyone here that actually knows. Its not directed at you, this is a prevailing theme across the TPB forum, maybe its true but every time I ask all I get are opinions and challenges.

          - does AL sign all players? Do John jr and TT just step aside and let AL pick all players he wants, including Stick? Did TT want to sign Fitz and AL vetoed him? I doubt that
          - is handing off to your 1st Rdr Feature RB at the 1 such a unique play call, it signifies some deeper meaning? Does AL even call those plays?
          - If LAC runs a pass play inside the RZ and some routes are into the EZ and others are not, and Phil checks it down - does that mean AL hates throwing the ball into the EZ and ergo he really wants a running QB? How do these things all connect?
          - is AL the first coach to want a balanced run-pass attack? Did LAC actually run A lot more than they pass by some measure different than the league at large, or did they actually run less than many teams?
          - Is it desirable / effective to have a offense that can pass but is unable to run the ball? Isn’t that what LAC had for several years, going nowhere?
          - is Tyrod a running QB? A bit but not really. Was Cardale Or Geno? No.

          And I’ll end my question list with ...

          - isn’t the assumption he WAS a RB coach so therefore he can only want a running QB demeaning and insultingly simple? Is it a diminishment of his intelligence or ability to presume that because he was a RB coach, he can’t think in any other mode or concept now he is HC?

          I think he wants a mobile QB that adds a dimension, especially after watching for years his QB unable to stumble to the gatoraid table and get a drink. I think every HC wants that now if there’s the option. I don’t translate that into he cares more about a QB running than passing. I also dont presume he wants an option spread RPO running QB who is going to wildcat and pitch the ball all day long.

          If anyone can show me where he’s said this, or anything like this, I’d welcome my continued education. I clearly have a lot to learn from y’all.
          In 2019 reg season, LAC was 10th most in pass attempts #9 ypa, 28th at rush att's , #23 ypa. Obviously we were pass 1st for obvious reasons. We were more successful in the air. Being closer to 50/50 is desirable, it makes the D work harder if you're effective at both. We were not. The most obvious problem was blocking. We absolutely need more effective OL blocking, period. After achieving that, let's see what AL does. I can't make any assumptions based on 2019.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
            Durant, Niang, Becton, A. Thomas, Wills, Peart, I. Wilson, Adams, A. Jackson, A. Taylor, C. Heck
            Crushenberry, Ruiz, Wirfs, T. Phillips, J. Runyan, Adeniji, Stenberg, R. Hunt, Herron, Biadiaz, Driscoll, C. Clark, J. Hanson, J. Jackson, Iwuagwu

            Checked off height, length, reach metrics for me.
            Matt Peart @ #71 ?!?
            Tree branches for arms.
            Cushenberry has long arms too.
            Biadiasz is bigger than I thought...OG ?
            Hennessy is climbing my Board.
            We do not play modern football.

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            • Fleet
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              Digging that wingspan on Thomas.

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              • Fleet
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                More Prospect Film

                ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo6...BlhR3Jw/videos

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                • Charge!
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                  Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                  In 2019 reg season, LAC was 10th most in pass attempts #9 ypa, 28th at rush att's , #23 ypa. Obviously we were pass 1st for obvious reasons. We were more successful in the air. Being closer to 50/50 is desirable, it makes the D work harder if you're effective at both. We were not. The most obvious problem was blocking. We absolutely need more effective OL blocking, period. After achieving that, let's see what AL does. I can't make any assumptions based on 2019.
                  The 50/50 thing is a false belief...... Great teams either are pass oriented teams or run oriented teams......

                  For example, during the walsh/49ers era, the 49ers primarily passed the ball in order to build large leads, then after then they ran the ball to run the clock out and by end of game the overall total yards and plays appeared balanced but not really if you watched the game....

                  Look at the chiefs..... they pass the ball heavily most of game but then late in game when losing team is desperate to stop the run and stack the box, one of the chief's speedy players shoots through and goes distance with adds rushing yardage that makes it seem more balanced.....

                  Same true of saints, NE..... chargers.....

                  there are 4 downs but most of the time, teams only run plays on 3 of the downs with the 4th down being a punt or kick......

                  So its simple math.....

                  if you have 3 plays to get a first down, then if you are a running team you have to run on at least 2 of them(hoping for 4 or 5 yards per carry).... and you are hoping for 3rd and short.....
                  If you are a passing team, you must pass the ball at least 2 of the 3 plays to put the odds in your favor..... the teams that complete 70 percent of passes usually throw very short ones....caught about 5 yards away so it takes 2 completions to get first downs..... in NE, NO,..... etc.....

                  to be great at passing, you need to do it the majority of the time.... to be great at running you need to to that the majority of the time......

                  great teams pass to score points and run the ball to run out clock and keep defenses honest...... balance is needed but balance does not mean 50/50.....it means 67/33...or 60/40....
                  50/50 means you ere not doing anything really well......

                  Lynn is old school RB coach....... he may not realize the rules are made to almost force you to throw the ball....... he needs to realize that to outscore and beat chiefs, the Chargers are going to have to be great at passing the ball...... we need too score over 30 to beat chiefs......

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                  • like54ninjas
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                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    Matt Peart @ #71 ?!?
                    Tree branches for arms.
                    Cushenberry has long arms too.
                    Biadiasz is bigger than I thought...OG ?
                    Hennessy is climbing my Board.
                    I like our draft slots. Trading down in each round, 1-12 spots, needs to be down 2+ times. I’d prefer to do so in rounds 2-3 and again multiple times day 3.

                    Peart has good tape, ideal physical measurements, and plays with physicality with some nasty.
                    Cberry could play all 3 IOL.
                    Biadiaz is an OG with ability to backup OC.
                    Love Temple kids. Always tough/smart. Henny has excellent movement skills but anchor is very questionable.
                    My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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                    K9
                    Nasir
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                    • like54ninjas
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                      Originally posted by Fleet View Post
                      Digging that wingspan on Thomas.
                      His physical measurements are fantastic and better than anticipated. Matched with quality game tape, he has an ELITE IMPACT prospect makeup.
                      My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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                      Nasir
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                      • Fleet
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                        Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                        His physical measurements are fantastic and better than anticipated. Matched with quality game tape, he has an ELITE IMPACT prospect makeup.
                        Seen him mocked in the 20's? lol He is a true LT. In a sea of RTs.

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                        • Fleet
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                          Just having fun.

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