OT: USA Women's and Men's Soccer Team

[chargerkdb]

After all that...how again is the USWNT not far superior to the Men's team? Let us know the next time the women fail to beat a crap team like T&T to miss out on the WC altogether. Please. It isn't even a debateable point.

Our slowest men's player faster than the fastest women's player. The USMNT are playing against the big boys not the girls. The men just beat T&T 6-0 and that T&T men's team would run circles around our women. It's exciting and to watch but the women's game isn't anywhere near the speed, physicality and skill of the men's game.

[Panamamike]

Here I'll try it this way. A high school team in my state won 9 state titles in 10 years using your logic they were far superior to the Patriots. Better against their level of competition sure. Superior....nope.

Well.....i never implied they would beat the men head to head. In no sport based on speed and strength willl that occur IMO. However they are a far superior team in their sport.

[Panamamike]

Our slowest men's player faster than the fastest women's player. The USMNT are playing against the big boys not the girls. The men just beat T&T 6-0 and that T&T men's team would run circles around our women. It's exciting and to watch but the women's game isn't anywhere near the speed, physicality and skill of the men's game.

Awesome...the men defeated a far inferior club when itdid t really matter much....oooooohhh the might Gold Cup. Lol. When it mattered to make the WC they folded like a cheap suit.

[chargerkdb]

Awesome...the men defeated a far inferior club when itdid t really matter much....oooooohhh the might Gold Cup. Lol. When it mattered to make the WC they folded like a cheap suit.

The men's team making great strides. Last WC cycle was a mess but they are now a firm 2nd tier side as apposed to a laughing stock that they were for years. The women's team has been a big fish in a small pond. The Euros are starting to field women's teams which is why their dominance may not last much longer. Strides at international level are typically generational as opposed to year to year. Our team is oldest at this tournament and Spain is either youngest or close. The gap is closing.

I meant to respond to Ninja, he was claiming women's team could beat our men's team

[Panamamike]

The men's team making great strides. Last WC cycle was a mess but they are now a firm 2nd tier side as apposed to a laughing stock that they were for years. The women's team has been a big fish in a small pond. The Euros are starting to field women's teams which is why their dominance may not last much longer. Strides at international level are typically generational as opposed to year to year. Our team is oldest at this tournament and Spain is either youngest or close. The gap is closing.

I meant to respond to Ninja, he was claiming women's team could beat our men's team

Time will tell. I think you are over valuing the men's team growth and under valuing the women's program as a whole. the men are still a light year away from truly competing on the world stage. But they play in a really weak qualifiying area so there is no excuse for them to not qualify in any WC cycle IMO.

[chargerkdb]

Qualifying for WC is a hard slog. The men often play qualifiers with MLS heavy squads as opposed to the Top 11. The margin for error is lower. Inferior teams often bunker which leads to draws especially away games. They play home qualifiers in stadiums packed with fans from away teams country. The US blew it last round, that why we have a new manager. But since 1990 with the exception of 2018 we not only made it to World Cup but got to knockout rounds consecutively including a narrow QF loss to Germany. Pulisic, McKennie, Adams are regular starters for Champions league teams. Our U17 team made back to back QF appearances in U17 WC's. The pipeline is starting to produce. I've been following and attending US men's international games around Europe since the late 80's, trust me the Men have made huge strides.

[chargerkdb]

I'm not taking anything away from women's team, they are the team to beat for sure. I'm a betting man but I wouldn't touch the France game. The competition is closing. I hope they win would love to see them get the 4th star but it's going to be tough. Probably a lot tougher going forward

[Bolt-O]

Like in other team sports, you can't equate the men or women's versions. I enjoy having the USWNT as either the first or second best team in the world, and maybe that won't be forever, but enjoy it while it lasts. I was really disappointed that the men blew the last WC qual, mostly because it denied Pulisic valuable experience at that level. Still have a long way to getting respectability there.

Good game between JPN and NED, open play and tied near the end of the 1st half. If Japan loses, that leaves the US as the only non-UEFA in the quarters.

[Fleet]

I watched the game last night and was sort of thinking Spain was trying to get Morgan out of the game. They beat her to death. It was pretty sad. The ref basically let them do whatever they wanted. I dont really think the game winning penalty pick was a penalty. But it made up for the bloodbath that Morgan had to endure with basically no consequences for Spain.

That first goal by Spain for sort of a fluke. Im not sure the goalkeeper should have gone to Sauerbrunn.

[Bolt-O]

That first goal by Spain for sort of a fluke. Im not sure the goalkeeper should have gone to Sauerbrunn.

It might have been some indecsion. Naeher said that she should have gone deeper, and maybe Saurebrunn wasn't ready for it. On the second penalty, just think of the gnashing and wailing if it was against the US. I think it was a penalty, but 'soft'... like the NFL, there wasn't sufficient evidence to overturn, but the cleats were up.

[chargerkdb]

Like in other team sports, you can't equate the men or women's versions. I enjoy having the USWNT as either the first or second best team in the world, and maybe that won't be forever, but enjoy it while it lasts. I was really disappointed that the men blew the last WC qual, mostly because it denied Pulisic valuable experience at that level. Still have a long way to getting respectability there.

Good game between JPN and NED, open play and tied near the end of the 1st half. If Japan loses, that leaves the US as the only non-UEFA in the quarters.

[Bolt-O]

Our men have earned respect from most Euros. We used to be the team in pot 3 everyone wanted in their group Now we're the team in pot 2 nobody wants to draw. Good teams sometimes fail to qualify, the English and Dutch should make every WC but have missed

Yeah, and Italy missed last, as well, but its tougher to qualify in UEFA. Mexico only made the 2014 as the US didn't blow off their last hex game. Losing to T&T in the hex is still the WTF moment in recent national team history.... even more so than the women losing to Sweden in the Rio Olympics.