LAC VS JAX Pregame Discussion

[richpjr]

I am more than done with Lynn for a long list of reasons. But you asked what he needs to show me:

Creative game planning
Actual in game adjustments
Team playing with discipline
Team playing with a higher IQ
Immediately firing George Stewart for years of special teams failures
Most importantly - results

[Boltgang74]

What he said^^^^

[PR#1]

I said this in the game day thread but every time the Chargers have a big lead (2 games now) and the lead starts to slip away "Turtle Lynn" will start turtling up and going conservative allowing the other team to catch up.

This is not a baseless accusation. I remember two posters posted tweets where in the 4th, Turtle Lynn ran the ball on first down something like 20 times in a row for zero or no gain essentially wasting a down.

The Turtle took the ball out of Herbert's hands and put our QB in 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations all game long.

The NO loss falls squarely at the feet of the Turtle.

Who can defend this overmatched coach ?

[richpjr]

I said this in the game day thread but every time the Chargers have a big lead (2 games now) and the lead starts to slip away "Turtle Lynn" will start turtling up and going conservative allowing the other team to catch up.

This is not a baseless accusation. I remember two posters posted tweets where in the 4th, Turtle Lynn ran the ball on first down something like 20 times in a row for zero or no gain essentially wasting a down.

The Turtle took the ball out of Herbert's hands and put our QB in 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations all game long.

The NO loss falls squarely at the feet of the Turtle.

Who can defend this overmatched coach ?

I read a couple of national media guys criticizing Lynn for turtling up. We have seen this too many times. I believe the stat was we ran 18 times for 20 yards on first down.

[NoMoreChillies]

I said this in the game day thread but every time the Chargers have a big lead (2 games now) and the lead starts to slip away "Turtle Lynn" will start turtling up and going conservative allowing the other team to catch up.

This is not a baseless accusation. I remember two posters posted tweets where in the 4th, Turtle Lynn ran the ball on first down something like 20 times in a row for zero or no gain essentially wasting a down.

The Turtle took the ball out of Herbert's hands and put our QB in 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations all game long.

The NO loss falls squarely at the feet of the Turtle.

Who can defend this overmatched coach ?

I defend him. Backups are not as good as starters. its simple.
I agree he is overmatched, with players on the field.
Rayshawn cant do what Derwin does
Kelley cant do what Ekeler does
Groy cant do what Turner does
Pipkins cant do what Bulaga does
White cant do what Tranquill does.
Should i go on?

[21&500]

I am more than done with Lynn for a long list of reasons. But you asked what he needs to show me:

Creative game planning
Actual in game adjustments
Team playing with discipline
Team playing with a higher IQ
Immediately firing George Stewart for years of special teams failures
Most importantly - results

To Lynns credit
the game planning is effective in that it’s lead to big first half leads.
it’s not being able to retaliate against the opposition’s adjustments that is lacking.

and what do you mean by higher IQ? Is that different than discipline?

[21&500]

I defend him. Backups are not as good as starters. its simple.
I agree he is overmatched, with players on the field.
Rayshawn cant do what Derwin does
Kelley cant do what Ekeler does
Groy cant do what Turner does
Pipkins cant do what Bulaga does
White cant do what Tranquill does.
Should i go on?

How is it that backups seem to not only match up well the first half but practically doninate?

[richpjr]

I defend him. Backups are not as good as starters. its simple.
I agree he is overmatched, with players on the field.
Rayshawn cant do what Derwin does
Kelley cant do what Ekeler does
Groy cant do what Turner does
Pipkins cant do what Bulaga does
White cant do what Tranquill does.
Should i go on?

How about:

Lynn can't do what Belichick does (or Reid, or Carroll, or Harbaugh or on and on)
Gus can't do what Keith Butler does (field an attacking defense)
Steichen can't do what Bieniemy does (a lot of that could be Reid though)
Stewart can't do what a junior collect ST coach does

We have a lousy coaching staff, aside from Pep Hamilton. Yes injuries are a factor, like they are for a lot of teams. But this is now a broken record. We can do better. Much better.

[Charge!]

How about:

Lynn can't do what Belichick does (or Reid, or Carroll, or Harbaugh or on and on)
Gus can't do what Keith Butler does (field an attacking defense)
Steichen can't do what Bieniemy does (a lot of that could be Reid though)
Stewart can't do what a junior collect ST coach does

We have a lousy coaching staff, aside from Pep Hamilton. Yes injuries are a factor, like they are for a lot of teams. But this is now a broken record. We can do better. Much better.

Good points.... but I dont think anyone has established what Bienemy does, since it is obvious that Reid calls the plays and designs the game plans.... they say Bienemy is a very fiery coach, but is he an offensive genius likle Reid?

I still think Lynn is still learning and growing (seems now to be open to letting a talented rookie QB pass us to wins) and might be ok as a HC if we replace Gus with a better more aggressive DC.... since gus has been DC, our defense plays reasonably well when the opposition is experimenting and mixing up the run and short passes, but as soon as we have a lead which forces the opposition to actually throw the ball downfield, our defense, players or scheme cannot handle it and cannot stop anyone from scoring when they really need to.... which is the major reason why we lose close games...... not just this year but for a long time...... ATL owner finally realized that ATL cant stop anyone from scoring, so they fired their ex SEA DC...... (who was their HC).....
not sure if gus's adjustments are horrible or he just refeuses to adjust, but the Chargers defense has allowed every QB we have played this season to march at will at end of the game when they really need to score..... CIN lost because of a minor penalty otherwise Chargers are 0-5......

[21&500]

I'm still open to being persuaded
if Lynn can learn on the job then that would save us a LOT of time and resources that would otherwise go to a rigorous coaching search.
keep pep at all costs, I already suspect he'll make a fine OC, perhaps for us one day.
Lynn supposedly has good qualities, if he can up his XnO acumen and processing time, we'll be in business

[jamrock]

I'm still open to being persuaded
if Lynn can learn on the job then that would save us a LOT of time and resources that would otherwise go to a rigorous coaching search.
keep pep at all costs, I already suspect he'll make a fine OC, perhaps for us one day.
Lynn supposedly has good qualities, if he can up his XnO acumen and processing time, we'll be in business

We’re in year 4. He’s not gonna change

[21&500]

We’re in year 4. He’s not gonna change

Of course I'm skeptical
but if anything could potentially inspire an old dog to learn new tricks, it would be a budding star at qb


And maybe your boss threatening your job.