New stadium in LA

[TTK]

Over a decade of this fight for a stadium and I guess now it really does look like the writing is on the wall.

How many of us would root for a Charger team in LA? I know they started there, but that was well before I was born. I really don't think I could be a fan of an LA team. Actually, I know I couldn't. 35+ years of fan loyalty for them, down the drain...

What percentage of diehards do you guys think would still support The LA Chargers? (That felt ugly just typing that :/ )

I would not only stop rooting for the Chargers, I would start rooting against them.

[oneinchpunch]

I would not only stop rooting for the Chargers, I would start rooting against them.

Really? Just because they moved a couple hours up the coast?

The Chargers will always be my team. No matter where theyre located.

LA actually makes it easier for me to see them more.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

Faulconer accuses Fabiani of undermining Chargers stadium task force
Posted: Feb 17, 2015 6:30 PM PST
Updated: Feb 17, 2015 6:31 PM PST
SAN DIEGO (CNS) - The mayor of San Diego and his political consultant Tuesday blasted the Chargers' point-man in the team's stadium search, accusing him of "continuing to undermine" the work of a task force formed to find a site and financing plan for a new football facility.

In a letter to team president Dean Spanos, Mayor Kevin Faulconer wrote that he was disappointed with "the ongoing actions and demeanor" of Mark Fabiani, who has led the Chargers' lengthy search for a new place to play.

"His divisive tone and criticism of this group of volunteers, civic leaders and the city of San Diego as a whole are not conducive to developing a plan for a new stadium," Faulconer wrote. "I hope his behavior is not indicative of our ability to find a solution."

The mayor said San Diegans deserved better than "this type of discourse."

The message was in response to a letter Fabiani sent to the mayor earlier in the day questioning the independence of the task force. He wanted to know why political consultant Jason Roe was allowed to attend Monday's meeting between the advisory group and Fabiani.

In his response, Roe also blasted Fabiani.

"In 14 years of failure, Mark Fabiani has done nothing but make excuses, lay blame and pick fights," Roe said.

"The mayor's advisory committee is just that -- the mayor's advisory committee -- and Mark doesn't get to dictate how the mayor organizes his advisory group," Roe said. "Rather than work constructively with the committee to find solutions, Mark's back to his normal routine of picking fights to avoid progress."

He said ex-quarterback Ryan Leaf, an infamous NFL draft bust, is "no longer the worst personnel decision in Chargers history."

Fabiani did not immediately respond to a request for comment regarding the mayor's or Roe's remarks. He has been critical of the task force idea since it was announced by Faulconer at his "State of the City" address last month.

The nine-member panel is made up of experts in major construction projects, real estate and finance but doesn't include representatives of stakeholders like the Chargers, San Diego State University, bowl game organizers, tourism officials, the city, county, or port of San Diego.

Faulconer proclaimed the group to be an independent advisory body. But in his letter, Fabiani said proclamations of independence for the group "are hard to square with the actual facts."

Besides asking about Roe, he also questioned Faulconer as to why his chief of staff and another aide attended the beginning of Monday's meeting; whether private donations to fund the task force would be disclosed; and who retained spokesman Tony Manolatos, and whether he should he work for the group considering he previously represented the port and made negative comments about the Chargers.

"As we made clear to task force members during our meeting on Feb. 16, we are grateful that they have volunteered their time and effort to attempt to solve this long-running civic issue, and we are committed to participating if the genuine goal of this process is to find a truly workable solution,"

Fabiani wrote.

He said anything short of that would be viewed as "a process that is designed simply to provide political cover."

Manolatos told City News Service that the task force has a short deadline -- the mayor wants its recommendations this fall -- and needs all the support it can get.

"There are distractions," Manolatos said. "It's unfortunate (Fabiani's) out trying to distract folks rather than work with the task force to find a solution."

Manolatos said he understands the team's frustration, based on well over a decade of trying to get a new stadium, and said he was retained by the task force at its first meeting.

Roe attended Monday's meeting because public financing is likely to end up on the ballot, and he would run the campaign, Manolatos said.

[oneinchpunch]

Faulconer should come down hard on his consultants for their response.

[bonehead]

You know behind all the name calling and rhetoric I'm starting to feel the LOVE.......this is all just a ruse to make the taxpayers think the Chargers are off to LA and they have no choice but to fork over millions to build a stadium for a team worth over a billion in a league that has an annual TV CONTRACT over 7 billion and a commish who runs aTAX FREE ORG for a mere 44 million a year

[TTK]

Really? Just because they moved a couple hours up the coast?

The Chargers will always be my team. No matter where theyre located.

LA actually makes it easier for me to see them more.

Yep. I have absolutely no connection with LA. LA is just not a city I really like or enjoy visiting for that matter. For me, the Chargers are about civic pride in SAN DIEGO.

I don't know if I'd stop watching the NFL. I suppose I'd just watch Red Zone and become a general football fan because I still do enjoy the game but I guess I'd just be without a team to root for. But in the Fantasy Football world we live in now, that's not really a bad thing I guess.

[oneinchpunch]

Yep. I have absolutely no connection with LA. LA is just not a city I really like or enjoy visiting for that matter. For me, the Chargers are about civic pride in SAN DIEGO.

I don't know if I'd stop watching the NFL. I suppose I'd just watch Red Zone and become a general football fan because I still do enjoy the game but I guess I'd just be without a team to root for. But in the Fantasy Football world we live in now, that's not really a bad thing I guess.

I guess its all just SO Cal for me. Ive spent so much time in both cities and much in between that its all just an area.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

Faulconer accuses Fabiani of undermining Chargers stadium task force
Posted: Feb 17, 2015 6:30 PM PST
Updated: Feb 17, 2015 6:31 PM PST
SAN DIEGO (CNS) - The mayor of San Diego and his political consultant Tuesday blasted the Chargers' point-man in the team's stadium search, accusing him of "continuing to undermine" the work of a task force formed to find a site and financing plan for a new football facility.

In a letter to team president Dean Spanos, Mayor Kevin Faulconer wrote that he was disappointed with "the ongoing actions and demeanor" of Mark Fabiani, who has led the Chargers' lengthy search for a new place to play.

"His divisive tone and criticism of this group of volunteers, civic leaders and the city of San Diego as a whole are not conducive to developing a plan for a new stadium," Faulconer wrote. "I hope his behavior is not indicative of our ability to find a solution."

The mayor said San Diegans deserved better than "this type of discourse."

The message was in response to a letter Fabiani sent to the mayor earlier in the day questioning the independence of the task force. He wanted to know why political consultant Jason Roe was allowed to attend Monday's meeting between the advisory group and Fabiani.

In his response, Roe also blasted Fabiani.

"In 14 years of failure, Mark Fabiani has done nothing but make excuses, lay blame and pick fights," Roe said.

"The mayor's advisory committee is just that -- the mayor's advisory committee -- and Mark doesn't get to dictate how the mayor organizes his advisory group," Roe said. "Rather than work constructively with the committee to find solutions, Mark's back to his normal routine of picking fights to avoid progress."

He said ex-quarterback Ryan Leaf, an infamous NFL draft bust, is "no longer the worst personnel decision in Chargers history."

Fabiani did not immediately respond to a request for comment regarding the mayor's or Roe's remarks. He has been critical of the task force idea since it was announced by Faulconer at his "State of the City" address last month.

The nine-member panel is made up of experts in major construction projects, real estate and finance but doesn't include representatives of stakeholders like the Chargers, San Diego State University, bowl game organizers, tourism officials, the city, county, or port of San Diego.

Faulconer proclaimed the group to be an independent advisory body. But in his letter, Fabiani said proclamations of independence for the group "are hard to square with the actual facts."

Besides asking about Roe, he also questioned Faulconer as to why his chief of staff and another aide attended the beginning of Monday's meeting; whether private donations to fund the task force would be disclosed; and who retained spokesman Tony Manolatos, and whether he should he work for the group considering he previously represented the port and made negative comments about the Chargers.

"As we made clear to task force members during our meeting on Feb. 16, we are grateful that they have volunteered their time and effort to attempt to solve this long-running civic issue, and we are committed to participating if the genuine goal of this process is to find a truly workable solution,"

Fabiani wrote.

He said anything short of that would be viewed as "a process that is designed simply to provide political cover."

Manolatos told City News Service that the task force has a short deadline -- the mayor wants its recommendations this fall -- and needs all the support it can get.

"There are distractions," Manolatos said. "It's unfortunate (Fabiani's) out trying to distract folks rather than work with the task force to find a solution."

Manolatos said he understands the team's frustration, based on well over a decade of trying to get a new stadium, and said he was retained by the task force at its first meeting.

Roe attended Monday's meeting because public financing is likely to end up on the ballot, and he would run the campaign, Manolatos said.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

Hey look a pissing contest!

[TTK]

I guess its all just SO Cal for me. Ive spent so much time in both cities and much in between that its all just an area.

Whatever the case, there's going to be a lot of fans in San Diego who don't follow them anymore if they move.

[oneinchpunch]

Whatever the case, there's going to be a lot of fans in San Diego who don't follow them anymore if they move.

They will also gain a lot of fans while having a lot of SD carryover

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

If Spani had moved the team without effort to stay in San Diego I would toss them aside, but if San Diego can not afford them I'm not going stop being a fan.

I will not and can not be a Rams or Raiders fan. I can't root for Pasterics, Denver, KC, Baltimore, or Pittsburgh I hate the ENTIRE NFC, so what else can I do but have a coke a STFU...