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  • SDFan
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    Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
    Only 1 nfl stadium has been completely privately funded. New York met life. Also has TWO teams, huge PSL and enormous corporate backing. you really think Spanis needs to put up his entire fortune (some 80%of which is the Chargers) to keep them in a city that doesn't have a large corporate base, can't support PSLs etc, and has done nothing to facilitate getting a stadium done in almost 15 years? Get real.
    Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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      "Most everyone, including thus editorial board, wants that team to be the Chargers. But if it is not going to be the Chargers, this community deserves to know it now."

      So we can make a full court press for the Raiders.

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      • Faded blues
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        If the Chargers are going to la where are they going ?

        Not with kreinko
        Not with aeg who wants to buy a team

        Please stop with their gone rhetoric

        There will be a vote on the 2016 ballot

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        • TTK
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          Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
          If the Chargers are going to la where are they going ?

          Not with kreinko
          Not with aeg who wants to buy a team

          Please stop with their gone rhetoric

          There will be a vote on the 2016 ballot
          Even if that is true, the Chargers are handling this situation about as bad as you can IMO.

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          • oneinchpunch
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            Originally posted by TTK View Post
            Even if that is true, the Chargers are handling this situation about as bad as you can IMO.
            I think they are tired of playing games with the city. Theyve been pretty patient.
            Hashtag thepowderblues

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            • Wheels
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              I get the feeling that the news report about the Spani and Goldman Sachs agreeing on a deal for an LA team/stadium, that was quickly retracted, is true. It just slipped out at the wrong time (when they're trying to get season tix renewals).

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              • Panamamike
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                San Diego deserves a team...if not the chargers this community deserves to know it now." Really????? Dick around for 15 years, and now you want to know your status? He makes it sound like, ok....not the Chargers, then NEXT! Good frickin' luck getting any team to relocate. Who would want to move in and play in that falling to pieces shithole (literally) the Bolts play in and then get stonewalled for a decade trying to get a solution? There is very little corporate backing, very fickle fan attendance, and a community that doesn't want to subsidize a stadium in any way ( even by having visitors pay the subsidy). Yep....sounds like a dream scenario....where do sign up?



                Originally posted by SDfan View Post
                don't misunderstand my position- I was describing public sentiment of the SD population. Recent polls show 67% AGAINST public money going to this stadium. I was talking about the Chargers hurting their case hiding behind FIBiani as he digs a deeper and deeper hole for their chances of a successful vote with his outbursts. UT editorial staff seems to agree with me...





                It’s your time to speak for the Chargers, Mr. Spanos
                By U-T San Diego Editorial Board3 p.m.Feb. 17, 2015


                Mark Fabiani, a super-plugged-in attorney who once served as a damage-control specialist for scandal-scarred President Bill Clinton, was hired in 2002 by San Diego Chargers President Dean Spanos to be the point man for the team’s effort to get a new stadium to replace outdated Qualcomm Stadium. Fabiani has been speaking for the Spanos family ever since. With relations between Fabiani and City Hall getting increasingly ugly, it’s time for Spanos to speak for himself, and to answer this question: Are you moving the team out of San Diego or not?

                Fabiani has been picking fights with Mayor Kevin Faulconer since Jan. 14, when Faulconer announced that he was creating a task force to develop a specific plan for a new stadium either downtown or in Mission Valley and how it should be financed. Fabiani denounced the whole idea of a task force. And he unfairly criticized the mayor for supposedly going back on his word that he wouldn’t give businessman Steve Cushman, a Chargers nemesis, a role with the task force. Then this week he delivered a statement to the task force that all but said there is no deal the group could put together that the Chargers would accept.

                And Tuesday he stuck another needle in the mayoral eye, sending Faulconer a four-page letter raising “legal and ethical” questions about mayoral adviser Jason Roe’s involvement with the task force. He also demanded answers to questions surrounding the involvement with the task force not just of Roe but also Faulconer’s staff.

                Does any of that sound like someone who appreciates that Faulconer is the first mayor in 13 years to go out on a political limb by committing to resolving the stadium issue? Does any of that seem like the actions of a spokesman for a Spanos family that truly wants to stay in San Diego and to come up with a stadium plan that voters would support and that would help campaign for it?

                No, it doesn’t. Insulting the mayor, his advisers and the task force seems more like the behavior of someone trying to make it look like it is all the city’s fault and that the Chargers now may have no choice but to leave for Los Angeles or wherever.

                Fabiani is obviously speaking for and acting on behalf of the Spanos family. There is no indication that the Spanoses are in any way unhappy with him. Still, San Diego deserves now to hear from the Chargers ownership itself, not the hired gun.

                The Chargers have been an important part of the fabric of San Diego for 54 years. The Spanos family has been good and generous corporate citizens. San Diego, in turn, is a good football town. It deserves an NFL team. Most everyone, including this editorial board, wants that team to be the Chargers. But if it is not going to be the Chargers, this community deserves to know it now.

                What do you say, Mr. Spanos?

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                • richpjr
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                  Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
                  If the Chargers are going to la where are they going ?

                  Not with kreinko
                  Not with aeg who wants to buy a team

                  Please stop with their gone rhetoric

                  There will be a vote on the 2016 ballot
                  Why not with Kroenke? They were discussing it on the radio yesterday and even if they were just a tenant in a stadium built and owned by Kroenke, they'd still make more money up there than they do now in the Q.

                  If Fabiani is saying what Dean wants him to (and you know he is) than what difference would it make speaking directly with him? Dean doesn't seem like a guy who likes or can handle confrontations (i.e. AJ vs Marty) so I'm sure that is why Fabiani is doing the dirty work now.

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                  • Panamamike
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                    Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                    I think they are tired of playing games with the city. Theyve been pretty patient.
                    As patient as Job IMO.

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                    • TTK
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                      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                      Why not with Kroenke? They were discussing it on the radio yesterday and even if they were just a tenant in a stadium built and owned by Kroenke, they'd still make more money up there than they do now in the Q.
                      I'm still curious what kind of deal Spanos would have to make with Kroenke to share that stadium. I still can't believe Kroenke would pay for the stadium himself and share it with Spanos for little to nothing.

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                      • TTK
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                        Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                        They will also gain a lot of fans while having a lot of SD carryover
                        Why would they gain a lot of fans there? There have already been a number of polls and statistics showing that LA fans do not want the Chargers. LA is like SD and a lot of other places in California. Full of transplants who remain loyal to their hometown team and the older native LA residents are primarily Raider or Rams fans. That's the biggest laugh of this whole scenario is that the Chargers would be moving into enemy territory. You thought Charger-Raider games here had a good amount of Raider fans, wait until a home game in LA takes place.

                        Look at how long it took the Clippers to be taken seriously and even then, they're always going to be second fiddle to the Lakers. That will never change.

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                        • oneinchpunch
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                          Originally posted by TTK View Post
                          Why would they gain a lot of fans there? There have already been a number of polls and statistics showing that LA fans do not want the Chargers. LA is like SD and a lot of other places in California. Full of transplants who remain loyal to their hometown team and the older native LA residents are primarily Raider or Rams fans. That's the biggest laugh of this whole scenario is that the Chargers would be moving into enemy territory. You thought Charger-Raider games here had a good amount of Raider fans, wait until a home game in LA takes place.

                          Look at how long it took the Clippers to be taken seriously and even then, they're always going to be second fiddle to the Lakers. That will never change.
                          The Clippers still sellout almost every game.

                          Just by the amount of people in LA the Chargers will gain fans.
                          Hashtag thepowderblues

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