Bye Gus Bradley

[bartman83642]

Just hop on the bus Gus

Didn't get enough wins with Lynn

No more play for you in L Aaaa--aa

Go to the city of sin

[Topcat]

Lynn: What defense do you see? Should we run or pass?

Steichen: What? Pass?

Lynn: "What" ain't no defense I've ever heard of. They blitz in What Defense?

Steichen: What? Pass?

Lynn: English, fool, do you speak it?

Steichen: Yes! Yes!...but Pass?

Lynn: Then you know what I'm sayin'!

Steichen: Yes!

Lynn: Describe what the Defense looks like!

Steichen: What? Pass?

Lynn: Say 'Pass' again. Say 'Pass' again, I dare you, I double dare you fool, say pass one more Goddamn time!

Yep...reminds me of Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First?"

[Topcat]

Just hop on the bus Gus

Didn't get enough wins with Lynn

No more play for you in L Aaaa--aa

Go to the city of sin

"50 Ways to Lose Your DC"...

[dmac_bolt]

I skipped to the end ... but who here isn’t completely thrilled he’ll be DC at an AFCW foe? Step forward and explain ...

[Topcat]

I skipped to the end ... but who here isn’t completely thrilled he’ll be DC at an AFCW foe? Step forward and explain ...

Agree, don't like ANYBODY, whether a coach or player going from us to THEM...on the other hand, the inability of Gus to stop Herbie should be an overall plus for us...

[Steve]

Gus is a pretty solid DC, but what I saw the last two seasons was an inability to make adjustments.

They'd look good for a half, and then fall apart.

A LOT of those close losses the last 2 years were because they would allow late game drives.

He did have to deal with considerable injury problems on the defensive side.

I'd normally wish him well, but he went to the Raiders, so Piss Off.
:smh:

It might be worth noting that defenses give up late TD far more often then they stop. The D is at a huge disadvantage when the pass rushers get tired, and then the receviers have a lot of extra time to get open. Very, very few teams have the depth at pass rush to keep rushing the passer well late in the game.

AS far as Gus went, I disagree with the adjustment thing. There were always a lot of little things going on, some worked, some didn't.

The bigger problem, IMHO, was the lack of fundamentals. Gus was a great DC for the legion of Boom, because they were fundamentally sound, didn't miss tackles, got off of blocks, and didn't blow coverages. They were the same style of D, although they had the personnel to do a lot more man coverage (single deep S with bump and run compliments the 3 deep zone very well schematically).

The Chargers always struggled to tackle under Gus, and only in his 2nd year were they even close to average in the ability to shed blocks to get to the ball. He was also able to mix and match "odd" personnel in the base D, along with situational guys to make a great DL on the cheap, which he not only was not able to do with us, he simply never got much production at the DT, who were just dreadful while he was our DC (all 4 years). The tackling thing alone used to extend drives, either by getting offenses ahead of schedule or on 3rd downs when they just kept converting.

Anyway, the lack of the Seattle fundamentals just killed our D year after year.

[gzubeck]

It might be worth noting that defenses give up late TD far more often then they stop. The D is at a huge disadvantage when the pass rushers get tired, and then the receviers have a lot of extra time to get open. Very, very few teams have the depth at pass rush to keep rushing the passer well late in the game.

AS far as Gus went, I disagree with the adjustment thing. There were always a lot of little things going on, some worked, some didn't.

The bigger problem, IMHO, was the lack of fundamentals. Gus was a great DC for the legion of Boom, because they were fundamentally sound, didn't miss tackles, got off of blocks, and didn't blow coverages. They were the same style of D, although they had the personnel to do a lot more man coverage (single deep S with bump and run compliments the 3 deep zone very well schematically).

The Chargers always struggled to tackle under Gus, and only in his 2nd year were they even close to average in the ability to shed blocks to get to the ball. He was also able to mix and match "odd" personnel in the base D, along with situational guys to make a great DL on the cheap, which he not only was not able to do with us, he simply never got much production at the DT, who were just dreadful while he was our DC (all 4 years). The tackling thing alone used to extend drives, either by getting offenses ahead of schedule or on 3rd downs when they just kept converting.

Anyway, the lack of the Seattle fundamentals just killed our D year after year.

Gus could not train a mouse to fart!

:shifty:

[FoutsFan]

It might be worth noting that defenses give up late TD far more often then they stop. The D is at a huge disadvantage when the pass rushers get tired, and then the receviers have a lot of extra time to get open. Very, very few teams have the depth at pass rush to keep rushing the passer well late in the game.

AS far as Gus went, I disagree with the adjustment thing. There were always a lot of little things going on, some worked, some didn't.

The bigger problem, IMHO, was the lack of fundamentals. Gus was a great DC for the legion of Boom, because they were fundamentally sound, didn't miss tackles, got off of blocks, and didn't blow coverages. They were the same style of D, although they had the personnel to do a lot more man coverage (single deep S with bump and run compliments the 3 deep zone very well schematically).

The Chargers always struggled to tackle under Gus, and only in his 2nd year were they even close to average in the ability to shed blocks to get to the ball. He was also able to mix and match "odd" personnel in the base D, along with situational guys to make a great DL on the cheap, which he not only was not able to do with us, he simply never got much production at the DT, who were just dreadful while he was our DC (all 4 years). The tackling thing alone used to extend drives, either by getting offenses ahead of schedule or on 3rd downs when they just kept converting.

Anyway, the lack of the Seattle fundamentals just killed our D year after year.

So what you are saying is Gus is great when surrounded by all stars.

A lot of DC's in the NFL look good when surrounded by all stars.

[Steve]

Gus could not train a mouse to fart!

:shifty:

His super bowl ring suggest you might be wrong about that.

[Steve]

So what you are saying is Gus is great when surrounded by all stars.

A lot of DC's in the NFL look good when surrounded by all stars.

No, my point is that the reason we should get rid of him is that the reason he was a the hot DC candidate and what got him a SB ring was the attention to fundamentals (mainly tackling) and clever use of personnel, something he failed at with us. Most players are aggressive and confident when they trust their fundamentals. Not many LB will aggressively fly up into a hole to tackle if they are not confident they can shed block and stick the runner. Same with a CB breaking on the route of a WR. He will stay in his backpedal a bit longer if he knows he is sloppy in his transition technique and knows the recevier will get a step past him in passing.

The various comments on this board people seem to think that you can just stop calling zone defense and particularly all the cover 3 with the new DC. They hate it because it got beaten so much last year, which is understandable, but that misses the point of WHY every NFL team plays so much cover 3. It is the predominant coverage in the NFL, and has been for years. Plenty of teams in the playoffs (all of them) are calling lots of cover3, and it is working just fine for them. Unless offenses are going to stop lining up with 11 personnel with 3 receivers threatening to go deep, we are going to play a lot of cover 3 and that is that. The only thing that could stop that is if someone can come up with a pass coverage that works by not having to cover the other teams receiver, but the ESP coverage has been developed that works yet.

Gus defense is fine schematically. All offenses and defenses work fine on paper. The personnel problems are a big part of the problem. The DC and position coaches need to find a way to get the players to execute better. The technique problems that occurred routinely are a big part of what made our zone coverages so much softer the last 2 years, from the more aggressive, tighter coverages in Gus' first two seasons.

[NoMoreChillies]

So what you are saying is Gus is great when surrounded by all stars.

A lot of DC's in the NFL look good when surrounded by all stars.

not many look good when they are forced to play backups

[FoutsFan]

not many look good when they are forced to play backups

The good ones can hold it together.