2021 Official Chargers Season Discusssion

[Xenos]

Brandon Thorn’s top 50 trenchers. Two Chargers are on the list though for different tiers.
https://trenchwarfare.substack.com/p...-entering-2021

Tier 1 - Unique

Tier 2 - Elite

Tier 3 - Very good/trending up

Tier 4 - Very good/trending down

Joey Bosa is under the elite tier:

In terms of pure skill, I would place the older Bosa brother atop the list among his peers for the 2021 season. With the ability to set up his moves using hesitations and stutters, plus string multiple moves together on the same rep while gaining ground upfield, Bosa is the poster child for what it should look like from a technique perspective. He’s also exceptionally quick with the play strength to run through blockers using his bull-rush and reduce inside to the 3T on passing downs. Bosa also finished 2nd in high-quality sacks per snap in 2020 despite playing just 53% of snaps, which was ridiculously efficient.

Corey Linsley is under Tier 4:

Tier 4 - Very good/Trending down
These players are either very good now and likely to remain there for the next few seasons (Grady Jarrett, Shaq Mason, Carl Lawson, etc.) or very good now and likely trending down (Rodney Hudson, Duane Brown, J.J. Watt, etc).

Before being named first team All-Pro I had Linsley pegged as one of the most underratedoffensive linemen in the NFL. Linsley is a technician in the zone run game with elite-level processing in pass-protection that results in one of most rock solid centers in football.

[Xenos]

"The Chargers brass knew they needed to upgrade their offensive line" is like saying Mrs. Lincoln was 'disappointed' that her husband was assassinated.

We already knew this, right?!?

Was there any reasonably informed person in the entire football world who DIDN'T know that the Chargers' O-line was in drastic need of upgrading?!?

Chargers' brass would be ignoramuses of the highest order if they DIDN'T know the line needed upgrading.

So when they tell us that "The Chargers brass knew they needed to upgrade their offensive line"...

Duh!!!

I would also like to add that TT subscribes to the old school method of personnel. If there’s an area of need, it gets the main focus on FA and the draft. Once that area stabilizes you move to the next area of concern the following offseason. This is a fine method that works because you’re actively addressing all areas of a team. The problem is if you fail at executing in FA (salary cap risk) and especially if you fail at the draft since that’s your future pipeline. 2017 is really the most obvious recent example. We got a decent LT in Okung, and drafted three OL (2 in the first three rounds). They all became starters and had a decent one to two years of output. But ultimately failed long term due to injuries as well as being bad.

[jamrock]

You’re body, your choice?

It should be every individual adult’s choice.
If a player doesn’t want the vaccine and understands the restrictions/limitations placed on them after, then perfect. While this may negatively affect the team’s performance at times, we will know what position groups may need additional depth because of the unvaccinated.

Surprised people think it’s ok for players to jeopardize their team and teammates in spite of overwhelming evidence that the shots work. Selfish

[Xenos]

As much as I like hearing different opinions on immunization, we should probably move away from the topic altogether given its current polarization effect. Maybe revisit when it does become an issue for the team. But as it is, we’re no longer at the bottom. And that’s all that matters now.

[PORTERPARTY1]

Does anyone else see the LB's as needing more bodies. What happens if White, Murry or Tranquill go down with injury or covid 19? Any chance they resign Ingram?

[Scoregon]

One reason it surprises me the vaccination percentages aren't higher everywhere around the league is that every guy who is anywhere near the roster bubble should be getting vaccinated if they care about making the cut. Teams won't say it's a reason, but if you're choosing between special teamers/backups/practice squad players, vaccination is going to be a tie breaker. In fact, I'd suspect that for practice squad guys who are going to be around your starters, but not often contributing, they will just refuse to keep anyone who is unvaccinated. The risk would just not be worth it, especially if you have some key guys who are choosing not to and are therefore vulnerable.

[like54ninjas]

Does anyone else see the LB's as needing more bodies. What happens if White, Murry or Tranquill go down with injury or covid 19? Any chance they resign Ingram?

Definitely a chance SupaMel gets a call if something happens in camp.

K9, Tranquill, Kyzir, Niemann, and Egbule (who is a STer and low end EDGE. Is not a bad core group. All fast, excellent size, physical, young, and ascending players.
To help round out/support/push those 5, we have a few UDFA in C. Christiansen, Amen O., and D. Lloyd. Cole was on the PS last year and got a few ST snaps filling in for injuries. Amen was a 2-time ream captain, team DPOY, and a standout STer early at OSU.

[like54ninjas]

Surprised people think it’s ok for players to jeopardize their team and teammates in spite of overwhelming evidence that the shots work. Selfish

They all should. It is the intelligent decision. The science and results are irrefutable. The information is easily accessible, easy to understand, and it’s simple to get the vaccine.
Teams have to be looking at this as a deciding factor on roster decisions for the back 3rd of the roster and PS.
Will they all? No. Will the vast majority? Yes.

[jamrock]

Does anyone else see the LB's as needing more bodies. What happens if White, Murry or Tranquill go down with injury or covid 19? Any chance they resign Ingram?

They should sign Ingram for low money and low expectations

[Boltdiehard]

Can we change the verbiage from vaccination to immunization?

Probably not :facepalm1:

The only immunity is for the vaccine manufacturers.

[Boltdiehard]

Surprised people think it’s ok for players to jeopardize their team and teammates in spite of overwhelming evidence that the shots work. Selfish

You might want to spend some time researching what vaccines have done to Iraq war vets and it’s a big reason for the anti vax movement. Those people have families and friends and many are messed up and they can’t fix them not that they would if they could. It’s all the same people getting insanely rich off that war and this.

[dmac_bolt]

Surprised people think it’s ok for players to jeopardize their team and teammates in spite of overwhelming evidence that the shots work. Selfish

What overwhelming evidence do you speak of? I think they should get it as they are likely to survive the shit. But take a gander at UK where they had >85% vaccination rate and now have exploding cases. Or take a look in the US where vaccinated people have tested positive. take a look at the statistics of healthy athletic men in their 20s who have contracted COVID in the last 18 months and you will discover they have effectively zero risk of dying from Covid - which means they don’t need to be vaccinated to be safe, they are already safe.

Then go read up on adverse event reports, which are exploding unlike any other vaccine ever distributed and you will find an odd paradox of healthy adults in their 20s getting myocardial reactions at a peculiar rate, with many deaths. the picture gets really cloudy really fast on which is the greater risk for a healthy 25 year old. Sorry but its uninformed bullshit to declare that either it 100% works or its 100% safe.

And just to dispel, i got the (Moderna) vaccine, I’m not an anti-Vaxer.