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  • 2021 Draft Depth by Position

    Draft Surplus by Position

    I looked at the top 96 players (per Draftek rankings) and summed them for each position. These are the 'Available' by position. I then looked at the top needs for each team (could be up to 5 starter level needs for some teams) and summed them to get the "Need' total for the position. I then subtracted Available- Need to get a view of the depth for each position.

    Lots of depth for OLB, S and RB. In shorter supply are : OT, EDGE ,TE and WR. Depends what the draft gives, but we may be better to grab an OT w the 1st. We already added some EDGE help so maybe a CB in rnd 2.


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    Note: WRS - WR Slot, RBC - RB change of pace, F- Fullback

  • #2
    Nice data, thanks!

    Feels like all our needs are everyone else's needs as well...
    I'll ride the wave...where it takes me.

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    • #3
      Of the teams w needs at OT, CIN and NYG go before us so it is not so dire. We could get the #3 ranked OT. If we wait to round 2, we are getting the #9 or 10 OT.

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      • #4
        Considering position and talent level,
        this draft is ultimately top heavy
        and tilted towards offense.
        Staley.
        Genius.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post
          Of the teams w needs at OT, CIN and NYG go before us so it is not so dire. We could get the #3 ranked OT. If we wait to round 2, we are getting the #9 or 10 OT.
          If we wait to #47, we’re getting a developmental project for LT. he can bunk with Pipkins in camp.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            If we wait to #47, we’re getting a developmental project for LT. he can bunk with Pipkins in camp.
            Yes. That is what I meant by the 9th best which is really an OT very average.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

              Yes. That is what I meant by the 9th best which is really an OT very average.
              well, it also depends on the player, the team, the system and how he develops as an NFL player.

              In the 2013 draft when Chargers use 1st rd 11th overall to pick Fluker-OT
              .......the player who ended up the best Left Tackle went in Rd 4. D.Bakthtiari-OT, he was the 19th offensive lineman taken.

              The following year C.Linsley-OC went in the 5th rd. He was the 30th offensive lineman taken.

              ​​In 2016,. J.Thuney went in Rd 3. Pick #78

              In 2017 D.Dawkins went Rd 2. Pick #63

              In 2018. O.Brown went Rd 3. Pick#83
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              ​​​I think a player like Hudson-OT could become a very good starter. Christensen-OT as well. A.Ealy-OT could also be a solid starter.
              And Borom-OT from Missouri could become a solid starter too.
              all of them will likely be a available in somewhere from the mid to late rds.

              You don't have to go OT at #13 and force a pick.
              Take Jaycee Horn if available. He has #1 CB ability.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Critty View Post

                well, it also depends on the player, the team, the system and how he develops as an NFL player.

                In the 2013 draft when Chargers use 1st rd 11th overall to pick Fluker-OT
                .......the player who ended up the best Left Tackle went in Rd 4. D.Bakthtiari-OT, he was the 19th offensive lineman taken.

                The following year C.Linsley-OC went in the 5th rd. He was the 30th offensive lineman taken.

                ​​In 2016,. J.Thuney went in Rd 3. Pick #78

                In 2017 D.Dawkins went Rd 2. Pick #63

                In 2018. O.Brown went Rd 3. Pick#83
                ​​
                ​​​I think a player like Hudson-OT could become a very good starter. Christensen-OT as well. A.Ealy-OT could also be a solid starter.
                And Borom-OT from Missouri could become a solid starter too.
                all of them will likely be a available in somewhere from the mid to late rds.

                You don't have to go OT at #13 and force a pick.
                Take Jaycee Horn if available. He has #1 CB ability.
                We don't seem to have any such ability it seems but wish we did. Most of their picks except maybe Tevi didn't pan out. Other teams find gems in later rounds who do develop.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Critty View Post

                  well, it also depends on the player, the team, the system and how he develops as an NFL player.

                  In the 2013 draft when Chargers use 1st rd 11th overall to pick Fluker-OT
                  .......the player who ended up the best Left Tackle went in Rd 4. D.Bakthtiari-OT, he was the 19th offensive lineman taken.

                  The following year C.Linsley-OC went in the 5th rd. He was the 30th offensive lineman taken.

                  ​​In 2016,. J.Thuney went in Rd 3. Pick #78

                  In 2017 D.Dawkins went Rd 2. Pick #63

                  In 2018. O.Brown went Rd 3. Pick#83
                  ​​
                  ​​​I think a player like Hudson-OT could become a very good starter. Christensen-OT as well. A.Ealy-OT could also be a solid starter.
                  And Borom-OT from Missouri could become a solid starter too.
                  all of them will likely be a available in somewhere from the mid to late rds.

                  You don't have to go OT at #13 and force a pick.
                  Take Jaycee Horn if available. He has #1 CB ability.
                  All that is true. Sometimes great players lay buried in day 3 rubble.

                  But now go back and look at the percentage of quality OL starters in R1 and compare it to any other round.

                  Point is that no one knows who those late-round gems actually are. If they did, they’d pick them on day 1, obviously.

                  But the odds of getting a quality player in the draft almost always corresponds to the round (ie. I’ve never seen a R2 with a higher % of quality players than R1).

                  Waiting until R4 to draft a tackle on the assumption you’ll find the next Bakhtiari is not only highly improbable, it’s outright ludicrous.
                  1. Slater/Darrisaw, LT
                  2. Richie Grant, S
                  3A. Adebo/Melifonwu, CB
                  3B. Osa Odighizuwa, DL
                  4. Elerson Smith, EDGE
                  5. Robert Hainsey, OL
                  6A. Fehoko/Imatorbhebhe, WR
                  6B. Ben Mason, TE/H-Back/ST
                  7. Avery Williams, NCB/ST Returner

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post
                    All that is true. Sometimes great players lay buried in day 3 rubble.

                    But now go back and look at the percentage of quality OL starters in R1 and compare it to any other round.

                    Point is that no one knows who those late-round gems actually are. If they did, they’d pick them on day 1, obviously.

                    But the odds of getting a quality player in the draft almost always corresponds to the round (ie. I’ve never seen a R2 with a higher % of quality players than R1).

                    Waiting until R4 to draft a tackle on the assumption you’ll find the next Bakhtiari is not only highly improbable, it’s outright ludicrous.
                    Well said.

                    Penei no matter what!
                    #13) Penei Sewell (OT) UO
                    #47) Joe Tryon (EDGE) UW
                    #77) Ifeatu Melifonwu (CB) SU
                    #97) Bobby Brown (IDL) TAMU
                    #118) Sadarius Hutcherson (IOL) SC
                    #159) Kenny Yeboah (TE) UMS
                    #185) Divine Deablo (DB/DLB) VT
                    #198) Gerrid Doaks (RB) UC
                    #241) Brandon Stephens (DB) SMU

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                      Penei no matter what!
                      Well....I wouldn’t go that far.

                      Here’s a tale of caution:

                      Pundits trumpeted 2X Big Ten offensive lineman of the year Tony Mandarich as the best offensive tackle prospect ever. He was 6’6”, weighed 330, ran the 40 in 4.65 seconds, did a standing long jump of 10'3", leaped vertically 30", and bench-pressed 225 pounds an unheard-of 39 times.

                      Moral of the story: even the greatest of prospects carry bust potential. Personally, I wouldn’t mortgage my team’s future on anyone.

                      If the price is right, if the price is fair, then do it. But never sell your soul for an unproven commodity.

                      I don’t know what’s the right price for Penei, but let’s stay within reason.
                      1. Slater/Darrisaw, LT
                      2. Richie Grant, S
                      3A. Adebo/Melifonwu, CB
                      3B. Osa Odighizuwa, DL
                      4. Elerson Smith, EDGE
                      5. Robert Hainsey, OL
                      6A. Fehoko/Imatorbhebhe, WR
                      6B. Ben Mason, TE/H-Back/ST
                      7. Avery Williams, NCB/ST Returner

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

                        Well....I wouldn’t go that far.

                        Here’s a tale of caution:

                        Pundits trumpeted 2X Big Ten offensive lineman of the year Tony Mandarich as the best offensive tackle prospect ever. He was 6’6”, weighed 330, ran the 40 in 4.65 seconds, did a standing long jump of 10'3", leaped vertically 30", and bench-pressed 225 pounds an unheard-of 39 times.

                        Moral of the story: even the greatest of prospects carry bust potential. Personally, I wouldn’t mortgage my team’s future on anyone.

                        If the price is right, if the price is fair, then do it. But never sell your soul for an unproven commodity.

                        I don’t know what’s the right price for Penei, but let’s stay within reason.
                        Ya ya. Careless. Always risk vs. reward. I like this prospect enough that I see little risk.

                        My statement has nothing to do with pundits. My own prospect evaluation. He is the 2nd highest rated prospect I’ve graded through my system.
                        My armchair GMing would be to make a move up with the offer I suggested/close to it.
                        #13) Penei Sewell (OT) UO
                        #47) Joe Tryon (EDGE) UW
                        #77) Ifeatu Melifonwu (CB) SU
                        #97) Bobby Brown (IDL) TAMU
                        #118) Sadarius Hutcherson (IOL) SC
                        #159) Kenny Yeboah (TE) UMS
                        #185) Divine Deablo (DB/DLB) VT
                        #198) Gerrid Doaks (RB) UC
                        #241) Brandon Stephens (DB) SMU

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