Rivers ponders future with Chargers

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  • QSmokey
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    #85
    Might as well keep pouring fuel onto this possible fire:

    Trade speculation with Philip Rivers is starting to grow legs   Somehow there seems to be legs to a possible Philip Rivers trade. Scott Kaplan rea...

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    • #86
      In related news, Ponder rivers future with Turds.

      Raiders sign unrestricted free agent QB Christian Ponder

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      • TTK
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        #87
        Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
        Might as well keep pouring fuel onto this possible fire:

        http://boltbeat.com/2015/03/17/phili...-trade-rumors/
        Keep in mind though that any trade would have to come with a new contract for Rivers. No team is going to trade him for one year so Rivers can pretty much veto any trade to a team he doesn't want to go to. Tennessee does seem to make a lot of sense though.

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        • MakoShark
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          #88
          To the people out here its both. I live, and have lived for over 20 years, out here where PR grew up and spends a good part of the offseason. No way he considers LA. Bank it. I'll take your bet. PR doesn't play mind games or issue cryptic messages. He's an open book and means what he says. He hides nothing. If the team moves to LA it will be the end of the SD Chargers in more ways than 1.

          Oh, to say that SD isn't that much different than LA is ludicrous :ban:
          Last edited by MakoShark; 03-18-2015, 01:42 PM.
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          • Wheels
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            #89
            Originally posted by TTK View Post
            http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2015...s-in-san-diego
            ...

            In Closing

            Dean Spanos is between a rock and a hard place with the stadium business, and the effects have finally hit the football operations side of the franchise.

            Telesco has to secure the future of the franchise, which means he has to put Rivers on the trade block and see what he can get for him before the draft.

            If the Chargers move Rivers for either Winston or Mariota (or less), the Chargers will face a fan revolt in San Diego, just as the Citizens' Stadium Advisory Group (CSAG) is about to release a financing plan. As bad as that is, imagine if the Chargers can't land Winston or Mariota, Rivers leaves San Diego in 2016 over the uncertainty with Los Angeles, and the Rams get to Los Angeles first, killing all of Spanos' leverage and what little goodwill is left in San Diego disappears.

            Philip Rivers just made the first real power play of his San Diego career, and whether he intended it or not, it was a play to keep the franchise in San Diego.
            I don't know that it really throws the organization that much of a curveball. If Rivers was younger it would, but he won't be the face of the team after the next couple years, regardless. The team will have to somewhat re-brand if moving to LA, and I believe a new young QB would probably be part of their fresh start.

            I'm sure the team would prefer to get the bandwagon rolling with some early success if they move to LA, but they cannot count on that, and the move would seem to be one made more with a view towards the long term.

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            • Fleet
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              #90
              Rivers sort of puts us in a pickle if he plans on playing longer but dosnt want to resign until after the year. With a restructure we can lower this years cap hit. Now TT may be thinking he wants to roll over some cap "Just in case" Rivers wants another contract. And in the event of another contract he will probably be a huge cap hit next year. He will get paid big money. Im just bummed that he wants to wait because i felt that if he extended we could use that money to either lock up Ingram or bring in another player to help us win this year.

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              • richpjr
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                #91
                Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 20m20 minutes ago
                Philip Rivers will play out his contract, even as #Chargers want to give him an extension. He has some leverage. They do, too, with the tag.

                Around The NFL ‏@AroundTheNFL 22m22 minutes ago
                Chargers have no intention of letting Philip Rivers go anywhere, per @RapSheet on NFL Total Access. Los Angeles is overplayed as a factor.

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                • BoltBacker
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                  #92
                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                  Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 20m20 minutes ago
                  Philip Rivers will play out his contract, even as #Chargers want to give him an extension. He has some leverage. They do, too, with the tag.

                  Around The NFL ‏@AroundTheNFL 22m22 minutes ago
                  Chargers have no intention of letting Philip Rivers go anywhere, per @RapSheet on NFL Total Access. Los Angeles is overplayed as a factor.
                  Finally something that makes sense with all the BS floating the last couple days.

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                  • Panamamike
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                    #93
                    Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
                    This is why the off-season is so much more fun for me than the regular season. All kinds of interesting tidbits of news.

                    If Spanos is serious about moving to LA, it might be best for him to move Rivers NOW.
                    The offseason is ok, but some of us actually watch the games during the season and find them very entertaining.....you should try it next year....lol.

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                    • oneinchpunch
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                      #94


                      5 places Philip Rivers could play if he bolts the Chargers

                      It's not getting nearly enough play, but it might be the most stunning news of the NFL offseason cycle: Philip Rivers is worried the Chargers will move to Los Angeles so he's going to play out his deal and figure out another option if the franchise ends up moving.

                      Rivers' willingness to ditch the only franchise he's ever played for and flat-out refusing to play in LA would be a fairly unprecedented move.

                      The best part of all this is the idea of Rivers — a Southern man to his core — being so disgusted at the thought of living in Los Angeles he's willing to call off contract talks with the only team he's ever played for and figure something else out.

                      “Hey, Phil! What's your favorite part about driving down the 405?”

                      Rivers cited not wanting to move his family as the issue with LA but, uh, what does he think is happening if he plays somewhere else? In other words, this Los Angeles hatred might be legit.

                      A couple things to remember here. One, the Chargers have the franchise tag to use. Two, Rivers could simply be making a power play with San Diego ownership. In both cases it behooves everyone to remember Rivers is a pretty stubborn dude. Would he hold out if he's tagged? Sure, why not. And it would be expensive for the Chargers too (north of $20 million for just 2016).

                      Three, Ben Roethlisberger just got a $100 million contract from the Steelers. He and Rivers, despite the Super Bowl ring differential, are in the same financial class. Rivers will turn 34 but he will command a massive contract when his current deal runs up.

                      So let's at least consider a few potential landing spots, operating under the assumption that geography matters (the Rams would fit but we'll rule them out because L.A.), but getting a chance to win a Super Bowl trumps everything. Except Los Angeles.

                      We're assuming too that the Chargers actually move in this scenario. Hopefully that's obvious.

                      1. Philadelphia Eagles — You think Sam Bradford is a good theoretical fit for Chip Kelly's offense? Rivers would light up the NFL if he was placed in Kelly's system. Despite his unconventional mechanics, Rivers has as quick a release as there is in the NFL and last year was the most accurate quarterback in the NFL with less than 2.5 seconds to work in the NFL (76.6 percent according to Pro Football Focus; he had the 15th-most drop backs in the league). Rivers is one of the most cerebral quarterbacks in the league, an excellent deep-ball passer and fully capable of working with less than the highest-end weapons. Yes it would be weird for someone from Decatur, Alabama to choose Philly after refusing to play in LA. No offense to cheesesteaks.

                      2. Buffalo Bills — Trying to topple Tom Brady isn't the easiest thing in the world, but the Bills need a quarterback and were close to a playoff team in 2014 with Kyle Orton and EJ Manuel. Buffalo has an excellent defense that includes not one but TWO of Rivers college teammates, Mario Williams and Manny Lawson. (They also once drafted John McCargo in the first round. Never forget.) Rex Ryan and Rivers talking on the sideline is a dream come true for television networks and GIF makers around the world. LeSean McCoy is the perfect back to pair with Rivers and Buffalo re-worked Shady's deal so there's some cap room coming free after 2016, which would help with signing a high-end quarterback. This feels like a surprisingly viable alternative honestly. Seven children makes shoveling the driveway a lot easier. Put ‘em to work, Phil!

                      3. Houston Texans — Also in need of a quarterback, Houston has a strong running game with Arian Foster, DeAndre Hopkins in the passing game and a J.J. Watt-led defense that will be good for as long as Watt is bench-pressing cars in a cabin in the woods. He and Rivers could even hang out there in the offseason, grow beards and kill bears. The AFC South is getting better and dealing with Andrew Luck is no fun, but adding Rivers to the Texans would make them a big-time Super Bowl contender immediately. It's a two-hour flight to Decatur from Houston.

                      4. Tennessee Titans — The Titans can say whatever they want about Zach Mettenberger but they need a quarterback. Ken Whisenhunt and Rivers would go together like spaghetti and meatball in terms of style, attitude and general intensity. We know they work too, because Whisenhunt did such an excellent job as Rivers offensive coordinator that he landed the Titans job in the first place. Assuming they add Leonard Williams (and not Marcus Mariota) in this draft, the defense is suddenly starting to take shape. Rivers to Tennessee would arguably flip this division on its head; the Titans with Rivers next year would be my pick to win the AFC South over the Colts. That's how dramatic a turnaround a quarterback like Rivers can make.

                      BIG-TIME BONUS:

                      5. Washington Redskins — Doesn't really feel like something that could work but Dan Snyder is known for making big, splashy moves. This would be bold and Washington feels like a viable team to trade a high pick or 20 in exchange for Rivers if the Chargers want to try and make that happen. Scot McCloughan's presence as GM severely mitigates the possibility though, given his penchant for building through the draft. We're talking a top-five or top-10 NFL quarterback here. It alters your franchise. The Redskins badly need a quarterback. They have weapons in DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon and a high-end left tackle in Trent Williams. Washington is in the south, kind of.

                      One hilariously ironic bonus possibility? How about the SAINTS. They're clearly willing to rebuild and what a ridiculous story it would be if Rivers replaced Drew Brees again. Unlikely given Brees isn't that much older than Rivers. But some food for thought.

                      My bet would be Rivers sticking with the Chargers, mainly because moving a family of seven sounds worse than having your eyes stapled open and being forced to watch a 48-hour "Doc McStuffins" marathon.

                      If he's that unwilling to play in LA? Can't rule anything out.
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                      • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                        #95
                        What no Bronko's?
                        Go Rivers!

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                          #96
                          Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
                          Might as well keep pouring fuel onto this possible fire:

                          http://boltbeat.com/2015/03/17/phili...-trade-rumors/
                          Wow, just like GM-Head Coach Feud I (Beathard vs Ross) was repeated with GM-HC Feud II (AJ/Marty), could we have a follow-up installment to "Move Up the draft to number 2 to pick a bust QB from the Northwest"? (Q, you could probably pick a snappier moniker I'm sure).

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