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Originally posted by Xenos
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I'm guessing we were at 6th or 7th worst... -
OL is one issue...but quality of the QB is a major issue..... the ones with best grades, either have a great QB or an extremely mobile QB.... the ones rated worst have bad QB'ing..... DaK was out for season so they sucked at QB too....Originally posted by Topcat View PostComment
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To be fair, Dak got lost for the season is the Cowboys' FIFTH game. Any way you slice it, the 'boys had Prescott for more than 25% of the season.Originally posted by Charge! View Post
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Good point. I noticed that on many occasions, even though Herbie got hurried, he was still able to unload the rock at the last moment, and avoid a ton of sacks that would have easily happened with PR...Originally posted by Charge! View PostComment
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Herbert is a gem. Intelligence, strength, athleticism, vision. He made some great throws in less than optimal conditions.Originally posted by Topcat View Post
I liked him in the draft but was shocked to see how good he actually was.Comment
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Originally posted by sonorajim View PostAs a Ducks fan I watched Herbert all four years and I thought he was a good prospect, but I never expected what he did last year. He is a better pro than he was in college. His footwork is way better and that affects his throws. I couldn't be happier for Justin and the Bolts. Good years ahead!Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!Comment
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Remember Lawrence McCutcheon, an absolutely AVERAGE back, behind that killer Rams line in the 70's?Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View PostComment
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McCutcheon was named to 5 straight Pro Bowl teams and had rock solid stats. He was pretty good.Originally posted by Topcat View PostComment
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He was good, but not great. Good for gains between 3-10 yds. or so, sometimes a bit more, but usually too slow to break off any runs more than 40 yds. or so, much less to take it to the house. Had McCutcheon not been running behind that stellar Rams line of Slater, Mack, Harrah, France, Pankey, etc., opening up Grand Canyon-sized holes for him, his stats probably never would have been the same. But he proves my point that a solid O-line makes an average RB look great...Originally posted by chaincrusher View PostLast edited by Topcat; 07-09-2021, 05:38 AM.Comment
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Just as a frame of reference about long runs:Originally posted by Topcat View Post
LaDainian Tomlinson had an 11 year NFL career.
His longest run was 85 yards. The next four longest runs of his career were for 76, 73, 62 and 54 yards.
That's FIVE runs of 50+ yards, over 11 years. That doesn't really sound like a lot, does it? (Doesn't Derrick Henry come close to doing that pretty much every SEASON?)
In 2004, when LT totaled 1335 yards, his longest run all season was 42 yards.
Tomlinson was many things, but he wasn't really a 'breakaway' back in the way that Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton were. .
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Okay, good point there, Quack. Here's how I would compare the two:Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
LT was an elite RB who had a mostly good, at times elite O-line. Hardwick, Dielman and McNeill were pro-bowlers, but McNeill's career was shortened by his stenosis condition. Goff was pretty solid. Olivea was decent for a season or two, then had drug issues. Clary was barely average, and poor in pass pro.
McCutcheon was an average, at times slightly above average RB who was running behind that elite O-line of Slater, Harrah, Mack, France and Pankey. All pro-bowlers except for Pankey, who was still pretty solid.
LT was elite. McCutcheon was average to good, but that line made him very good to great.Last edited by Topcat; 07-09-2021, 08:06 AM.Comment
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Ouf ! In 1970, I was only 6 years old !Originally posted by Topcat View Post
How was the WAS OL with J. Riggens ?Comment
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