WFT vs Bolts Pre Game Discussion

[cmplxgal]

FWIW, here is the Chargers' game one roster. The only differences from the initial 53-man roster are adding S Trey Marshall (originally signed by Denver in 2018 as an undrafted free agent) and DT Eric Banks (originally signed by the Rams in 2020 as an UDFA) and waiving CB Brandon Facyson and DL Forrest Merrill, both of whom were added to the practice squad.



Offense (26):


Quarterbacks (3): Justin Herbert, Chase Daniel, Easton Stick


Running backs (4): Austin Ekeler, Justin Jackson, Joshua Kelley, Larry Rountree III


Fullbacks (1): Gabe Nabers


Offensive line (9): LT Rashawn Slater, LG Matt Feiler, C Corey Linsley, RG Oday Aboushi, RT Bryan Bulaga, T/G Brenden Jaimes, C Scott Quessenberry, T Storm Norton, T Trey Pipkins


Wide receivers (5): Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Josh Palmer, Jalen Guyton, K.J. Hill


Tight ends (4): Jared Cook, Tre' McKitty, Donald Parham Jr., Stephen Anderson




Defense (24):


Defensive line (5): DE Jerry Tillery, NT Linval Joseph, DE Justin Jones, DE/DT Christian Covington, DT Eric Banks


Edge/outside LB (4): Joey Bosa, Kyler Fackrell, Uchenna Nwosu, Chris Rumph II


Inside LB (5): Kenneth Murray, Kyzir White, Drue Tranquill, Nick Niemann, Amen Ogbongbemiga


Cornerbacks (5): Michael Davis, Chris Harris, Asante Samuel Jr., Tevaughn Campbell, Kemon Hall


Safeties (5): Derwin James, Nasir Adderley, Alohi Gilman, Mark Webb, Trey Marshall




Specialists (3):

Kicker: Tristan Vizcaino


Punter: Ty Long


Long Snapper: Matt Overton


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Injured reserve (1): CB Ryan Smith


Practice Squad (16):

OL Nate Gilliam
OL Ryan Hunter
RB Darius Bradwell
TE Hunter Kampmoyer
WR Jason Moore
WR Joe Reed
WR Michael Bandy
WR Austin Proehl

DL Joe Gaziano
DL Breiden Fehoko
DL Forrest Merrill
LB Cole Christiansen
EDGE Emeke Egbule
CB Brandon Facyson
CB Kiondre Thomas
S Ben DeLuca

[Hadl2Alworth]

I like Fitz!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F0aE5VUZIY

[Charge!]

none of us know what will happen tomorrow or how are team will look....but here are a few things:

all the media who are predicting the WTF will beat us are talking about how much pressure Herbie will be under... but Herbie head NFL in beating pressure.....

and one knows what our offensive scheme or defensive schemes will look like because Staqley played no one and showed noting in pre season.....

and this team is the healthiest we have been in decades to start a season........

only 14 hours left......

[Formula 21]

I don’t see what all the commotion is about. WFT is not going to know what hit them.

34-17 Bolts.

[Xenos]

I found some cool stuff about Fangio's and Staley's defensive scheme. The WFT's offense needs to do the following in order to beat Staley's defense.

https://theathletic.com/2817355/2021/09/10/how-offenses-need-to-adapt-to-the-rise-of-the-vic-fangio-brandon-staley-defenses/

So, to recap here: the most effective ways to combat this defense include more running (which is inherently less efficient), more short completions (which require longer, mistake-free drives), and simpler play calls less capable of creating chunk gains. With answers like that, there’s a reason this system of defense is about to take the league by storm.

Essentially the only team that's been able to really knock this defense down was Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. But that was on a cold day with an injured Aaron Donald playing.

[Guest]

Are there other 38 year old QB who move like this? Maybe, but...as I said...SURPRISING

Move like what? In 9 games, Fitzpatrick ran for a whopping 151 yards. The most he has ever run for in a season is 304 yards. He is not a running QB. The video shows him running slowly in a pasture when the defense created wide open running lanes for him. He initiated contact against smaller DBs on a couple of plays. Herbert knocked a bigger LB out cold when he initiated contact. Steve Young ran for 454 yards in his age 37 season at 6.5 yards per carry.

[DragonIce]

Move like what? In 9 games, Fitzpatrick ran for a whopping 151 yards. The most he has ever run for in a season is 304 yards. He is not a running QB. The video shows him running slowly in a pasture when the defense created wide open running lanes for him. He initiated contact against smaller DBs on a couple of plays. Herbert knocked a bigger LB out cold when he initiated contact. Steve Young ran for 454 yards in his age 37 season at 6.5 yards per carry.

You don't read very well sometimes.

I said "surprising". Never said historic or legendary.
I said "moves well for his age". Never said he was a running QB (though he did in fact lead Mia in 2019 rushing)

[equivocation]

50 pages on Fitzpatrick's 40 time incoming.

[Guest]

My prediction:
Chargers: 27
WFT: 20

The looks just about right IMO.

[SBbound]

Feels like it's Christmas eve, the clock is moving so slowly.

[Guest]

You don't read very well sometimes.

I said "surprising". Never said historic or legendary.
I said "moves well for his age". Never said he was a running QB (though he did in fact lead Mia in 2019 rushing)

In what way is the video surprising? Fitzpatrick saw huge holes in the defense and decided to run, which he did slowly and not very impressively. On his best day ever, Fitzpatrick does not look like a good runner. So, my point is that guys who are that slow and get slower do not look like they are moving well for their age. They just look slow. The most impressive part of the video for Fitzpatrick is that he does a good job of spotting the gigantic holes when they are there. (He demonstrates intelligence, not good or even surprisingly good athleticism).

Also, Fitzpatrick led the Dolphins in rushing with a mere 243 rushing yards in 2019. So that, by far, is Miami RBs being bad, not Fitzpatrick being good (or good for his age if you prefer).

[DragonIce]

In what way is the video surprising? Fitzpatrick saw huge holes in the defense and decided to run, which he did slowly and not very impressively. On his best day ever, Fitzpatrick does not look like a good runner. So, my point is that guys who are that slow and get slower do not look like they are moving well for their age. They just look slow. The most impressive part of the video for Fitzpatrick is that he does a good job of spotting the gigantic holes when they are there. (He demonstrates intelligence, not good or even surprisingly good athleticism).

Also, Fitzpatrick led the Dolphins in rushing with a mere 243 rushing yards in 2019. So that, by far, is Miami RBs being bad, not Fitzpatrick being good (or good for his age if you prefer).

This has become repetitive, and is no longer interesting to debate. I think Fitz moves surprising well. You don't. There we are.

Enjoy your evening. Sleep well...for the games tomorrow!