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  • KarlC
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    Originally posted by Formula Two One View Post
    Brady ordered the terrorists to attack Bengazi? I thought Hilary did that?
    Plus Brian Williams and the missing Malaysian plane....

    Just sayin'.

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    • Wheels
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      Originally posted by KNSD View Post
      Apparently him saying that 11 of the 12 balls in January was somehow incorrect even though the Wells report clearly shows that's the case. So I'm wondering why everybody is making a big deal about it.
      Mort apparently reported that 11 of the 12 balls were greater than 2lbs underinflated. That was damning, and kind of controlled the narrative early on in the scandal. What was correct was that 11 of the 12 were underinflated, the misreporting was the amount they were underinflated. From what I can gather, the backlash is about Mort being a tool for the NFL leaking suspect info.

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      • bonehead
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        Originally posted by Wheels View Post
        Mort apparently reported that 11 of the 12 balls were greater than 2lbs underinflated. That was damning, and kind of controlled the narrative early on in the scandal. What was correct was that 11 of the 12 were underinflated, the misreporting was the amount they were underinflated. From what I can gather, the backlash is about Mort being a tool for the NFL leaking suspect info.
        Yeah I can't stand that kind of behind the back scheming by reporters.....but in this case I will make an exception....GO MORT!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB BABY!!!!!

        Who knows maybe Mort wasn't being a tool of the NFL, he may just be tired of the whole "Holier than thou" cheating asshats....
        Forget it Donny you're out of your element

        Shut the fuck up Donny

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          Originally posted by bonehead View Post
          Yeah I can't stand that kind of behind the back scheming by reporters.....but in this case I will make an exception....GO MORT!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB BABY!!!!!

          Who knows maybe Mort wasn't being a tool of the NFL, he may just be tired of the whole "Holier than thou" cheating asshats....
          Well when you get away with the shit the Pats have been getting away with, I think it's well deserved. Well done Mort.

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          • bonehead
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            agreed, they have earned the reputation....hell, they have coaches who go to other teams and start cheating...
            Forget it Donny you're out of your element

            Shut the fuck up Donny

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            • vinabolt
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              The "reputation of cheating" of NE doesn't come from any real incident other than the Spygate. The "reputation" comes from every fan based outside of NE so tired of seeing them in Championship Games and Superbowls. Belichick and Brady being an ass to the media doesn't help either. Even with the Spygate, it was a stupid and fluke incident. BB could have his cousin record the signals from the fans stand and does not break any rule. DEN involves with more cheating incidents than NE, especially during their dominance period with Elway, Terrell Davis and the Rat.

              NE got xxxx in this Deflategate thing. If this happen to SD I would be pissed. Imagine for 4 months SD got blasted by media and fans from other team from a blatant lie which come from the league office. I want Brady to miss 4 games because I want to see Garopollo. But I also want Brady to fight to the end so Goodell and his corrupted regime get what they deserve.

              It's not about Mort. It's about Mike Kensil, a long time NYJ personnel guy, he was the one that BB xxxx and left to join NE. It show how corrupt the league office is. For now we are happy that NE is in trouble, but what about one day SD start to dominance and this happen to the team?

              It's unlikely that ESPN's Chris Mortensen was going to out the source(s) of the blatantly false report from January that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were a full two pounds under the 12.5 PSI minimum during a Friday appearance on WEEI.


              Deflategate Legal Questions (A lawyer in Texas, HOU fan):

              Stephanie Stradley (@StephStradley) is a Houston-based lawyer and writer. In this post, she answers a variety of NFL fans' Deflategate legal questions.


              It's smell like Goodell trying to cover up and protect Mike Kensil and the league's "reputation" by sacrifice NE. Either that, or that NE masterminded a cheating scheme to deflate a few balls couple of inches, that wouldn't have made any real differences.
              Last edited by vinabolt; 08-04-2015, 12:04 PM.
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              • Wheels
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                Originally posted by vinabolt View Post
                The "reputation of cheating" of NE doesn't come from any real incident other than the Spygate. The "reputation" comes from every fan based outside of NE so tired of seeing them in Championship Games and Superbowls. Belichick and Brady being an ass to the media doesn't help either. Even with the Spygate, it was a stupid and fluke incident. BB could have his cousin record the signals from the fans stand and does not break any rule. DEN involves with more cheating incidents than NE, especially during their dominance period with Elway, Terrell Davis and the Rat.

                NE got xxxx in this Deflategate thing. If this happen to SD I would be pissed. Imagine for 4 months SD got blasted by media and fans from other team from a blatant lie which come from the league office. I want Brady to miss 4 games because I want to see Garopollo. But I also want Brady to fight to the end so Goodell and his corrupted regime get what they deserve.

                It's not about Mort. It's about Mike Kensil, a long time NYJ personnel guy, he was the one that BB xxxx and left to join NE. It show how corrupt the league office is. For now we are happy that NE is in trouble, but what about one day SD start to dominance and this happen to the team?

                It's unlikely that ESPN's Chris Mortensen was going to out the source(s) of the blatantly false report from January that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were a full two pounds under the 12.5 PSI minimum during a Friday appearance on WEEI.


                Deflategate Legal Questions (A lawyer in Texas, HOU fan):

                Stephanie Stradley (@StephStradley) is a Houston-based lawyer and writer. In this post, she answers a variety of NFL fans' Deflategate legal questions.


                It's smell like Goodell trying to cover up and protect Mike Kensil and the league's "reputation" by sacrifice NE. Either that, or that NE masterminded a cheating scheme to deflate a few balls couple of inches, that wouldn't have made any real differences.
                There was spygate. There were reports of visitor's headphones cutting out at crucial times when playing at Gillette. There was an allegation they had built an electronic surveillance room at Gillette that was allegedly used to monitor communications of visitor teams. There were reports that New England spied on the Rams during the superbowl walkthrough practice, in which the Patriots pulled off one of the biggest upsets ever in professional sports.

                You seem like you love the Patriots, why not become a fan?

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                • KNSD
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                  "Only spygate" - Hey Roger I bet you wish you didn't burn those tapes now, don't you?

                  Also, everybody in here knows Brady ordered those balls deflated. And he's not getting punished for the crime. He's getting punished for covering it up.

                  BTW, "11 of 12 balls under the limit" is just as bad as "11 of 12 balls 2 lb under the limit."

                  How's The Deflator's weight loss program coming along anyways? (That's what the Patriots responded with after the report. They've been throwing shit to the wall trying to cause doubt about the integrity of the report since it came out)

                  Even now, Brady is not arguing that he was guilty, he's arguing a technicality wrt how the league handles disciplinary cases. Why? Because he's fucking guilty. That's why.
                  Last edited by KNSD; 08-04-2015, 12:38 PM.
                  Prediction:
                  Correct: Chargers CI fails miserably.
                  Fail: Team stays in San Diego until their lease runs out in 2020. (without getting new deal done by then) .
                  Sig Bet WIN: The Chargers will file for relocation on January 15.

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                  • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                    HAHA! Yes he does!
                    Go Rivers!

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                      Throwing fuel to the fire: Manning was always paranoid the Pats had bugs planted in the locker room: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...commended_pool

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                      • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                        Patriots clarify text referring to weight-loss 'deflator' explanation
                        7/15/2015 - NFL TOM BRADY +1 more
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                        Mike Rodak, ESPN Staff Writer
                        The New England Patriots' website launched in May to offer rebuttal to Ted Wells' report has adjusted a portion of text that claimed locker room attendant Jim McNally referred to himself as the "deflator" because he was trying to lose weight.

                        In a June 18 annotation to Wellsreportcontext.com, the Patriots' attorney, Daniel J. Goldberg, linked to a separate page containing text that was removed from the original document and wrote that the weight-loss explanation had overshadowed other points made in the nearly 20,000-word document.

                        "The focus of public discussion about the one and only text that used the term "deflator" -- and what the term as used in that single text refers to -- has detracted attention from the numerous flaws in the Wells Report described in these annotations," the website's annotation reads. "The original paragraph discussing that text can be found here. The following paragraph has been added to clarify the basic point being made ... that one cannot reasonably rely on that one uncorroborated and unexamined text to conclude that there was improper ball deflation."

                        The Patriots said they intended it to be a "live" website that can be updated, with the understanding that links would be provided for any content that was removed along with an annotation as to why they adjusted it.

                        The original website text explained that "Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal [as equipment assistant John Jastremski]: to lose weight. 'Deflate' was a term they used to refer to losing weight. ... There was nothing complicated or sinister about it."

                        Also removed from the original explanation were several text messages between Jastremski and McNally, including one where McNally writes, "... come on help the deflator."

                        The Patriots' June 18 annotation notes that McNally used the term in "one and only one text," on May 9, 2014, and there was no mention of footballs in "any surrounding texts."

                        "That single word from a text in May is also the primary basis in the report to conclude that improper deflation occurred at the AFC Championship Game eight months later. And then it forms the basis for the findings regarding [Tom] Brady."

                        NFL investigators, according to the June 18 annotation, never asked McNally or Jastremski about the text message that included the word "deflator."

                        "They simply assumed, with no basis or investigation whatsoever, what "deflator" must mean, and then relied on their assumption to filter all the other evidence they received," the annotation reads. "What they did know, but chose to ignore, is that 'deflate' is often used in contexts having nothing to do with taking air out of footballs -- and that even these two men used the term in their texts in various ways having nothing to do with footballs."

                        The annotation also argues that a "simple Internet search reveals a frequent use of the word 'deflate' in the context of weight loss."
                        Go Rivers!

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                        • Mister Hoarse
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                          Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View Post
                          Patriots clarify text referring to weight-loss 'deflator' explanation
                          7/15/2015 - NFL TOM BRADY +1 more
                          EmailComment
                          Mike Rodak, ESPN Staff Writer
                          The New England Patriots' website launched in May to offer rebuttal to Ted Wells' report has adjusted a portion of text that claimed locker room attendant Jim McNally referred to himself as the "deflator" because he was trying to lose weight.

                          In a June 18 annotation to Wellsreportcontext.com, the Patriots' attorney, Daniel J. Goldberg, linked to a separate page containing text that was removed from the original document and wrote that the weight-loss explanation had overshadowed other points made in the nearly 20,000-word document.

                          "The focus of public discussion about the one and only text that used the term "deflator" -- and what the term as used in that single text refers to -- has detracted attention from the numerous flaws in the Wells Report described in these annotations," the website's annotation reads. "The original paragraph discussing that text can be found here. The following paragraph has been added to clarify the basic point being made ... that one cannot reasonably rely on that one uncorroborated and unexamined text to conclude that there was improper ball deflation."

                          The Patriots said they intended it to be a "live" website that can be updated, with the understanding that links would be provided for any content that was removed along with an annotation as to why they adjusted it.

                          The original website text explained that "Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal [as equipment assistant John Jastremski]: to lose weight. 'Deflate' was a term they used to refer to losing weight. ... There was nothing complicated or sinister about it."

                          Also removed from the original explanation were several text messages between Jastremski and McNally, including one where McNally writes, "... come on help the deflator."

                          The Patriots' June 18 annotation notes that McNally used the term in "one and only one text," on May 9, 2014, and there was no mention of footballs in "any surrounding texts."

                          "That single word from a text in May is also the primary basis in the report to conclude that improper deflation occurred at the AFC Championship Game eight months later. And then it forms the basis for the findings regarding [Tom] Brady."

                          NFL investigators, according to the June 18 annotation, never asked McNally or Jastremski about the text message that included the word "deflator."

                          "They simply assumed, with no basis or investigation whatsoever, what "deflator" must mean, and then relied on their assumption to filter all the other evidence they received," the annotation reads. "What they did know, but chose to ignore, is that 'deflate' is often used in contexts having nothing to do with taking air out of footballs -- and that even these two men used the term in their texts in various ways having nothing to do with footballs."

                          The annotation also argues that a "simple Internet search reveals a frequent use of the word 'deflate' in the context of weight loss."
                          When did they hire Yubaking to run their website?
                          Dean Spanos Should Get Ass Cancer Of The Ass!
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