Week 4 Raiders @ Chargers Game Day Thread / Post Game Discussion

[Guest]

Honestly, cook felt like the mvp for us tonight on the receiving end. Allen has kinda been disappointing. Williams disappeared tonight but has been amazing
otherwise this season.

My guess was that staley would be aggressive in those 4th down situations. Thankfully it's played out that way so far . Lovin it

IMO, the offense is misusing Allen at times. I do not get the need to have Allen be the player that is running the intermediate crossing patterns. Here is a newsflash for Lombardi--Allen is not going to outrun anybody across the field (as we again clearly observed when Perryman was basically stride for stride with him). Earlier in the season, we got to watch a Diggs INT when he undercut Allen's route because he is much faster than Allen and easily stuck with him.

Allen gets open quickly with his great initial get off, but often does not stay open for long periods of time because he lacks top end foot speed. So, throwing late to Allen does not work at times. Allen is almost always open because of a move he put on someone. He is almost never open when he is asked to outrun someone to get open, even a slow LB.

[Formula 21]

Forrest Merrill 87.9 PFF grade for what it's worth. Drue Tranquill up over 80 too.

UDFA. Minor conference. First game. I would not have thought that was even possible. My expectation would have been in the 40s.

[Guest]

He is going to be fined but even Stevie Wonder saw that holding penalty. It was pretty obvious. He can't get the 15 yarder though -- but thats like an NBA ref blowing a call and T'ing a guy up to add insult. I have no idea how not one of those 7 people saw Bosa being held. The play was so far out in the open - at least a yard away, if not more, from any other players.

I was screaming at the TV at that moment. The ref calling an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty following that demonstrate of head-up-ass officiating just compounded the head-up-ass officiating.

And speaking of officiating, does anyone else feel like we are getting hosed by it way worse this year than at any time in the Anthony Lynn era? In some of the Lynn games, I quietly felt like we were getting the better of the calls. This year, the refs are making us bend over and grab our ankles.

[like54ninjas]

[AK47]

IMO, the offense is misusing Allen at times. I do not get the need to have Allen be the player that is running the intermediate crossing patterns. Here is a newsflash for Lombardi--Allen is not going to outrun anybody across the field (as we again clearly observed when Perryman was basically stride for stride with him). Earlier in the season, we got to watch a Diggs INT when he undercut Allen's route because he is much faster than Allen and easily stuck with him.

Allen gets open quickly with his great initial get off, but often does not stay open for long periods of time because he lacks top end foot speed. So, throwing late to Allen does not work at times. Allen is almost always open because of a move he put on someone. He is almost never open when he is asked to outrun someone to get open, even a slow LB.

They played Allen tough. That said my mindset was we're using Mike Williams as a decoy.....which turned out to be true after watching replays. Mike Williams drew safties away to spring big plays from our TE's and RB's in the passing game. Lombardi knew all they hype/attention our 2 WR's were gonna get.

Note of warning to defenses we've got other weapons. Oh and yes the Parham Kraken as released.

[equivocation]

[Guest]

Besides Bosa and James, I think Tranquill is the best defensive player that Telesco has drafted.

He has solid athleticism, lot of hustle and high football IQ.

If he can stay healthy I think he can be developed into one of the best LBs in the league.

I like Tranquill a lot, but I think in time apart from Bosa and James and among the players we currently have, that honor is going to go to Asante Samuel, who I underrated in my pre-draft analysis.

[like54ninjas]

We want to be a LOS team!

[equivocation]

[WindsorUK]

Forrest Merrill 87.9 PFF grade for what it's worth. Drue Tranquill up over 80 too.

Just watched the game, and seeing Merrill in there, and making plays, was exciting.
Nice to have some depth in the middle.

[FoutsFan]

IMO, the offense is misusing Allen at times. I do not get the need to have Allen be the player that is running the intermediate crossing patterns. Here is a newsflash for Lombardi--Allen is not going to outrun anybody across the field (as we again clearly observed when Perryman was basically stride for stride with him). Earlier in the season, we got to watch a Diggs INT when he undercut Allen's route because he is much faster than Allen and easily stuck with him.

Allen gets open quickly with his great initial get off, but often does not stay open for long periods of time because he lacks top end foot speed. So, throwing late to Allen does not work at times. Allen is almost always open because of a move he put on someone. He is almost never open when he is asked to outrun someone to get open, even a slow LB.

Allen sucks we should cut him today.

[Topcat]

I triple-dog dared anyone trying to move this man backwards one-on-one.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445247516392529924

Fireplug Forrest is considered by some to be the strongest man in the draft. Dude deadlifted a MINI-VAN: