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Chargers Official Site | Los Angeles Chargers - chargers.com
Chargers WR Josh Palmer Tabbed as NFL's No. 1 Under-The-Radar Breakout Player
Aug 02, 2022 at 08:48 AM
Omar Navarro
Seasonal Content Assistant
Every NFL season, a young and unknown player seemingly arises from nowhere and earns notoriety around the league. While it may be a difficult thing to predict, some players who are in great situations might come onto the scene sooner than others.
Football Outsider's Rivers McCown complied his list on ESPN.com of the under-the-radar young players who could break out. Among the criteria was the player had to be under the age of 26 as of Sept. 1, drafted in the third round or later and entered the NFL between 2019 and 2021.
Bolts wide receiver Josh Palmer, the 77th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, was McCown's No. 1 prospect on his list. Despite not having big numbers coming out of college, the third-round receiver showed some flashes as a rookie in limited playing time.
He wrote:
…By the end of the season Palmer began getting starts. He had three touchdowns in the last five weeks of Los Angeles' season as Keenan Allen and Austin Ekeler missed some time. Palmer wasn't physically dominating, but he had a knack for doing work at the catch point.
The young wide out started last season not getting much action on offense, but as McCown pointed out, his workload ramped up as injuries began to occur. Palmer's best game came in Allen's absence, as he hauled in five receptions for 66 yards and a touchdown in Week 14. Although he only logged 458 offensive snaps last season, Year 2 could be a breakout year for him if he could establish himself as the next target after Allen and Mike Williams.
McCown wrote:
The extremely exciting part is that Palmer is dialed into one of the best offenses in the NFL…Palmer has also already earned his quarterback's confidence.
Early throughout training camp, Palmer has also impressed the coaching staff as he continues to improve. During the first week of training camp, Bolts Offensive Coordinator Joe Lombardi spoke about the wideout's growth.
Lombardi said:
"He's a guy that jumped out early to us. I think he keeps getting better and more confident," Lombardi said. "Especially your first year, as the offense gets installed, there's a volume aspect that can be overwhelming to a rookie. I think that part, he's through that hurdle, so that he can really just go out and play fast."
With more snaps and targets, Palmer could become a popular name around the NFL this season.
Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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My biggest question about the roster going into this season is the interior DL and the run defense in general. Are Sebastian Joseph-Day and Austin Johnson really an upgrade over Linval Joseph and Justin Jones, or did the simply move on from one pair of just guys and replace them with another pair of just guys? I'd never heard of Joseph-Day nor Johnson before they became Chargers, are they really an upgrade? The LB corps wasn't upgraded, and will be minus perhaps its best player from last season (White). Unless you view Troy Reeder as an upgrade. Mack is an upgrade at the edge in defending the run game. He has always defended the run well. My concern remains the middle of the front 7 with the interior DL and inside LBs.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostMy biggest question about the roster going into this season is the interior DL and the run defense in general. Are Sebastian Joseph-Day and Austin Johnson really an upgrade over Linval Joseph and Justin Jones, or did the simply move on from one pair of just guys and replace them with another pair of just guys? I'd never heard of Joseph-Day nor Johnson before they became Chargers, are they really an upgrade? The LB corps wasn't upgraded, and will be minus perhaps its best player from last season (White). Unless you view Troy Reeder as an upgrade. Mack is an upgrade at the edge in defending the run game. He has always defended the run well. My concern remains the middle of the front 7 with the interior DL and inside LBs.
our run D. I am worried about LB play but I think we see a lot more Derwin in the box so I think that will help that second level run defense.
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Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
Austin Johnson led the NFL in run stops last year. SJD has been a top run defender on a per-play basis the last few years and if I remember right he was #1 in run stop percentage in the NFL before he got hurt last year. Fehoko was actually #1 in run stop rate by the end of the season but on only 65 run snaps. They are also both guys in prime years as opposed to an over-the-hill Linval or the continual untapped potential of Justin Jones. So… yes I do think those 2, plus Mack who is consistently rated as one of the best run stopping EDGE defenders, will be a drastic improvement to
our run D. I am worried about LB play but I think we see a lot more Derwin in the box so I think that will help that second level run defense.
TGLike, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
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Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
Austin Johnson led the NFL in run stops last year. SJD has been a top run defender on a per-play basis the last few years and if I remember right he was #1 in run stop percentage in the NFL before he got hurt last year. Fehoko was actually #1 in run stop rate by the end of the season but on only 65 run snaps. They are also both guys in prime years as opposed to an over-the-hill Linval or the continual untapped potential of Justin Jones. So… yes I do think those 2, plus Mack who is consistently rated as one of the best run stopping EDGE defenders, will be a drastic improvement to
our run D. I am worried about LB play but I think we see a lot more Derwin in the box so I think that will help that second level run defense.
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If I was the Chargers, I would ask about Rouquan Smith, but a lot will depend on how much he wants. If you consider him a top LB, then he is almost certainly going to get something around $20 million per season (Shaquille (Darius) Leonard) got $20 million. Some teams don't believe in spending that kind of money on ILB.
Some people feel he is kinda a liability in run D (Pff grade was 30.0 last year). He reminds me of Donnie Edwards, being a sideline-to-sideline type of guy, but often gets knocked off his track, so he is not always in a position to stuff they run.
While he is a very effective to pass rusher, he isn't used that way often (most ILBs aren't). ILB pressure often loses its effectiveness if it is used too much since it becomes predictable. And Smith is a good coverage player, although most S is better coverage than even the best LB.
We also don't necessarily have an unlimited amount of cap space. Yeah, you can make the numbers work out, but there is a limit to how much and how long you can.
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Originally posted by Formula 21 View PostChargers Official Site | Los Angeles Chargers - chargers.com
Chargers WR Josh Palmer Tabbed as NFL's No. 1 Under-The-Radar Breakout Player
Aug 02, 2022 at 08:48 AM
Omar Navarro
Seasonal Content Assistant
Every NFL season, a young and unknown player seemingly arises from nowhere and earns notoriety around the league. While it may be a difficult thing to predict, some players who are in great situations might come onto the scene sooner than others.
Football Outsider's Rivers McCown complied his list on ESPN.com of the under-the-radar young players who could break out. Among the criteria was the player had to be under the age of 26 as of Sept. 1, drafted in the third round or later and entered the NFL between 2019 and 2021.
Bolts wide receiver Josh Palmer, the 77th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, was McCown's No. 1 prospect on his list. Despite not having big numbers coming out of college, the third-round receiver showed some flashes as a rookie in limited playing time.
He wrote:
…By the end of the season Palmer began getting starts. He had three touchdowns in the last five weeks of Los Angeles' season as Keenan Allen and Austin Ekeler missed some time. Palmer wasn't physically dominating, but he had a knack for doing work at the catch point.
The young wide out started last season not getting much action on offense, but as McCown pointed out, his workload ramped up as injuries began to occur. Palmer's best game came in Allen's absence, as he hauled in five receptions for 66 yards and a touchdown in Week 14. Although he only logged 458 offensive snaps last season, Year 2 could be a breakout year for him if he could establish himself as the next target after Allen and Mike Williams.
McCown wrote:
The extremely exciting part is that Palmer is dialed into one of the best offenses in the NFL…Palmer has also already earned his quarterback's confidence.
Early throughout training camp, Palmer has also impressed the coaching staff as he continues to improve. During the first week of training camp, Bolts Offensive Coordinator Joe Lombardi spoke about the wideout's growth.
Lombardi said:
"He's a guy that jumped out early to us. I think he keeps getting better and more confident," Lombardi said. "Especially your first year, as the offense gets installed, there's a volume aspect that can be overwhelming to a rookie. I think that part, he's through that hurdle, so that he can really just go out and play fast."
With more snaps and targets, Palmer could become a popular name around the NFL this season.
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