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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
Find us a Tyrell Williams !
We have a QB who has an absolute HOWITZER attached to his right shoulder. Let him use it!
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Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
Seems like every year, teams find guys like Tyrell. But TT seems extremely averse to speed lately. No RB's, WR's or TE's that can flat move!
We have a QB who has an absolute HOWITZER attached to his right shoulder. Let him use it!
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Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
Seems like every year, teams find guys like Tyrell. But TT seems extremely averse to speed lately. No RB's, WR's or TE's that can flat move!
We have a QB who has an absolute HOWITZER attached to his right shoulder. Let him use it!
You call out TT but he had the biggest FA offseason in Chargers history. That is the very reason why we are not in a good cap space situation currently.
JC Jackson. #1 FA on everyone's board. Everyone here raved about the pickup. Huge money for (at the time) arguably the best FA on the market. Was it TT's fault that he completely sucked and eventually injured? Not in my book because as expected we were looking for a shutdown corner.
Khalil Mack. Best FA pickup in a long time. Except he's a defensive player that was sorely needed. Again defense pickup where we were needing edge over offense speed.
Christian Covington. We picked up CC's contract again with a D signing.
Austin Johnson. Another FA addition to the D. Line.
Sebastian Joseph-Day. D Line again addressed.
Do you see what I am getting at? EVERYONE demanded we address the bad defense we had. When going that hard at fixing a soft D you can't afford make a run at offense FA's at the same time it is capually impossible.
If this were the case I would be right along with you. You will see another D heavy draft and FA. You will also see some speed additions through the draft and/or FA.
Then looking at the Draft we drafted Zion which I was fine with. But your logic would have us taking a WR over Zion. Is that still something you would want?
Available WR's at our 18 pick would have been.
Treylon Burks
Christian Watson
John Metchie,
Tyquan Thornton
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Velus Jones Jr
Jalen Tolbert,
Alec Pierce
etc etc
Do any of these WR's warrant a pick over Zion? Not hindsight.... At the time of the draft we are picking 18 and all the top WR's are gone. I wanted Garrett Wilson so bad I was just hoping he would fall to 18 because of his knee injury,. But nope.
Sorry to go off but I am not going to use hindsight woulda, coulda, shoulda logic here. We did all we could last offseason. I would give TT an A+ on last offseason.
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Originally posted by CivilBolt View Post
Now that Lombo is out, maybe he will be able to use it more. No more dink and dunk.
Staley was and is in charge, if he wanted to be more aggressive he would have made that happen no matter who the OC is..... he is in charge. same is true of player usage, like stupidly playing Herbert, Ekler, MW, and KA in a meaningless game is on Staley and NO ONE ELSE.......
TT added zero speed in off season and none during season when we had so many injuries..... obviously he and Staley did not want to make this an aggressive high scoring team.....TEAM needs at least 2 speed merchant WR's and adding an EXPLOSIVE RB would help lighten the load on Ekler too....
I'm truely no sure what kind of team or offense Staley wants????..... he should be honest and tell us what he wants to build here..and not tell us he likes the way the team is expressing itself???...... the conservative clock wasting offense has made our defensive stats much better then they would be otherwise, especially if we played a tougher schedule..... Im not sure Ive ever seen chargers playing worse teams or worse QB's than we played this year......and Ive been a fan over 50 years.....
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Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
Here's the flaw with your assessment. YOU CAN'T FIX EVERYTHING in 1 off season.
You call out TT but he had the biggest FA offseason in Chargers history. That is the very reason why we are not in a good cap space situation currently.
JC Jackson. #1 FA on everyone's board. Everyone here raved about the pickup. Huge money for (at the time) arguably the best FA on the market. Was it TT's fault that he completely sucked and eventually injured? Not in my book because as expected we were looking for a shutdown corner.
Khalil Mack. Best FA pickup in a long time. Except he's a defensive player that was sorely needed. Again defense pickup where we were needing edge over offense speed.
Christian Covington. We picked up CC's contract again with a D signing.
Austin Johnson. Another FA addition to the D. Line.
Sebastian Joseph-Day. D Line again addressed.
Do you see what I am getting at? EVERYONE demanded we address the bad defense we had. When going that hard at fixing a soft D you can't afford make a run at offense FA's at the same time it is capually impossible.
If this were the case I would be right along with you. You will see another D heavy draft and FA. You will also see some speed additions through the draft and/or FA.
Then looking at the Draft we drafted Zion which I was fine with. But your logic would have us taking a WR over Zion. Is that still something you would want?
Available WR's at our 18 pick would have been.
Treylon Burks
Christian Watson
John Metchie,
Tyquan Thornton
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Velus Jones Jr
Jalen Tolbert,
Alec Pierce
etc etc
Do any of these WR's warrant a pick over Zion? Not hindsight.... At the time of the draft we are picking 18 and all the top WR's are gone. I wanted Garrett Wilson so bad I was just hoping he would fall to 18 because of his knee injury,. But nope.
Sorry to go off but I am not going to use hindsight woulda, coulda, shoulda logic here. We did all we could last offseason. I would give TT an A+ on last offseason.
Chiefs rebuilt entire OL in ONE off season and added speed at RB, WR, and upgrades on defense......
49ers did similar......
teams with great GM's, coaches and ownership can do amazing things..... bad ones like Chargers do not.....
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Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
Here's the flaw with your assessment. YOU CAN'T FIX EVERYTHING in 1 off season.
You call out TT but he had the biggest FA offseason in Chargers history. That is the very reason why we are not in a good cap space situation currently.
JC Jackson. #1 FA on everyone's board. Everyone here raved about the pickup. Huge money for (at the time) arguably the best FA on the market. Was it TT's fault that he completely sucked and eventually injured? Not in my book because as expected we were looking for a shutdown corner.
Khalil Mack. Best FA pickup in a long time. Except he's a defensive player that was sorely needed. Again defense pickup where we were needing edge over offense speed.
Christian Covington. We picked up CC's contract again with a D signing.
Austin Johnson. Another FA addition to the D. Line.
Sebastian Joseph-Day. D Line again addressed.
Do you see what I am getting at? EVERYONE demanded we address the bad defense we had. When going that hard at fixing a soft D you can't afford make a run at offense FA's at the same time it is capually impossible.
If this were the case I would be right along with you. You will see another D heavy draft and FA. You will also see some speed additions through the draft and/or FA.
Then looking at the Draft we drafted Zion which I was fine with. But your logic would have us taking a WR over Zion. Is that still something you would want?
Available WR's at our 18 pick would have been.
Treylon Burks
Christian Watson
John Metchie,
Tyquan Thornton
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Velus Jones Jr
Jalen Tolbert,
Alec Pierce
etc etc
Do any of these WR's warrant a pick over Zion? Not hindsight.... At the time of the draft we are picking 18 and all the top WR's are gone. I wanted Garrett Wilson so bad I was just hoping he would fall to 18 because of his knee injury,. But nope.
Sorry to go off but I am not going to use hindsight woulda, coulda, shoulda logic here. We did all we could last offseason. I would give TT an A+ on last offseason.
Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB
Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT
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Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
Seems like every year, teams find guys like Tyrell. But TT seems extremely averse to speed lately. No RB's, WR's or TE's that can flat move!
We have a QB who has an absolute HOWITZER attached to his right shoulder. Let him use it!
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Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
Here's the flaw with your assessment. YOU CAN'T FIX EVERYTHING in 1 off season.
You call out TT but he had the biggest FA offseason in Chargers history. That is the very reason why we are not in a good cap space situation currently.
JC Jackson. #1 FA on everyone's board. Everyone here raved about the pickup. Huge money for (at the time) arguably the best FA on the market. Was it TT's fault that he completely sucked and eventually injured? Not in my book because as expected we were looking for a shutdown corner.
Khalil Mack. Best FA pickup in a long time. Except he's a defensive player that was sorely needed. Again defense pickup where we were needing edge over offense speed.
Christian Covington. We picked up CC's contract again with a D signing.
Austin Johnson. Another FA addition to the D. Line.
Sebastian Joseph-Day. D Line again addressed.
Do you see what I am getting at? EVERYONE demanded we address the bad defense we had. When going that hard at fixing a soft D you can't afford make a run at offense FA's at the same time it is capually impossible.
If this were the case I would be right along with you. You will see another D heavy draft and FA. You will also see some speed additions through the draft and/or FA.
Then looking at the Draft we drafted Zion which I was fine with. But your logic would have us taking a WR over Zion. Is that still something you would want?
Available WR's at our 18 pick would have been.
Treylon Burks
Christian Watson
John Metchie,
Tyquan Thornton
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Velus Jones Jr
Jalen Tolbert,
Alec Pierce
etc etc
Do any of these WR's warrant a pick over Zion? Not hindsight.... At the time of the draft we are picking 18 and all the top WR's are gone. I wanted Garrett Wilson so bad I was just hoping he would fall to 18 because of his knee injury,. But nope.
Sorry to go off but I am not going to use hindsight woulda, coulda, shoulda logic here. We did all we could last offseason. I would give TT an A+ on last offseason.
All of your points were spot on. I would definitely take Christian Watson over Zion you could’ve traded back into the first round and got him. But small school you know. Him and Justin Herbert. Watch out. That’s exactly what Herbert would need.
Khalil Mack was one of the best trades. Guy is still in his prime and has had such a positive impact on this team.
Jc Jackson bust. Should’ve had caution you know it’s a red flag when Bellicheck gets rid of guys. Asante Samuel. Is that system. He was getting burned until he got hurt. Hopefully he turns it around.
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i'm not sure if this was discussed already here or elsewhere already, but in his latest referee rant Bosa mentioned that he was playing "on one leg" in the jaguars game.
if he was still hurt, why was he out there? a backup would be better than a starter playing "on one leg." weird comment from Bosa - I don't remember this guy losing his composure in prior years.
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Originally posted by Charge! View Post
no one says you can but you can do a hell of a lot better than TT does....
Chiefs rebuilt entire OL in ONE off season and added speed at RB, WR, and upgrades on defense......
49ers did similar......
teams with great GM's, coaches and ownership can do amazing things..... bad ones like Chargers do not.....
TT is more respected by his peers than the Charger fan base why is that? There are still plenty out there that still believe we are one of the most talented rosters. Our O line looked great till the injuries piled up. I will say right now the O line will be one of the best in the league next year.
Chefs got lucky and hit pay dirt with Pacheco. They did not get faster at WR. S.F. Ummm McCaffrey was HUGE. They lucked out with Mr. Irrelevant. They also have Aiyuk and Deebo. I have been begging for speed for since seeing JH's arm. We take speed we would be ultra thin at O line.
Injuries and bad coaching are more of a culprit than TT. TT didn't blow the biggest lead in Charger history. Again listen. BEST OFF SEASON in Charger history. That is not even close to debatable.
Do you give TT credit for finding Ek? He did everything that Staley asked of him this last off season. I think TT's hate is unwarranted. I haven't seen any bone headed moves like other franchises.
Zack Wilson #1 pick?
Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson?
Clelin Ferrell #4 overall?
You mentioned S.F.. How about their pick of Solomon Thomas over T.J Watt?
Lastly, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold over Josh Allen...
Those are all recent stupid draft decisions.
I just hope we get an OC that can tap into JH's godlike arm and design and offense for it.
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