Post Draft OL Discussion

[blueman]

Not that the bar was set very high

Exactly. Two new rookie OGs should not be off the table. Play the best five.

[sonorajim]

Exactly. Two new rookie OGs should not be off the table. Play the best five.

A 1st and a 6th? The consensus is that players drafted on day 3 are barely alive.

[Xenos]

In looking at what you are suggesting a little closer. When we are playing teams like the Rams, Chiefs, and Raiders game #1 and IF the game is a nail bitter and every play matters, I would be a little nervous knowing the better players like Max Crosby etc. will be lining up over the RT looking to level Mr. Herbert. Also we have to also take into account there is a chance that all these starters won't be the unit starting if we make the playoffs... Meaning our depth on the Oline is very important as well.

Add 1 tried and proven OT into this mix and I would feel a little better, but who knows IF Stayley & Co. have the right stuff with their coaching like fans and media are starting to believe, we make the Playoffs in spite of our OL depth and talent. Big ?!

I just am a little cautious on how TT has been scrambling the OG position when he maybe should of been scrambling the OT position! Essentially it feels sort of like by him doing this he is making up and trying to catch up for the Lamp, Martin, IE OG bad pick failures while we are falling farther behind at the OT spot. But fingers crossed, we'll see how this unfolds either way.

So what you’re saying is that Staley also is scrambling to fix TT’s previous mistakes in Lamp and Feeney lol? Sorry but your last paragraph is ridiculous.

[sonorajim]

So what you’re saying is that Staley also is scrambling to fix TT’s previous mistakes in Lamp and Feeney lol? Sorry but your last paragraph is ridiculous.

The names involved, who drafted when are meaningless. The fact that the 2020 OL that coach Staley inherited stunk does.
This is Staley's team. 2021 FAs Linsley, Feiler, Aboushi/ Schofield, draft Slater were very good choices.
2022 #1 Zion Johnson was Staley. Salyer was a gift.
Coach Staley is building the OL he wants to compete for a championship.
Unfortunately restructuring the defense and STs put a hitch in his getalong re the perfect OL but these were coach Staley's choices.

[blueman]

A 1st and a 6th? The consensus is that players drafted on day 3 are barely alive.

LMAO I see what you did there. Gonna nickname Salyer, The Corpse.

[Lefty2SLO]

A 1st and a 6th? The consensus is that players drafted on day 3 are barely alive.

OUTSTANDING!!

:LOL:

[electricgold]

So what you’re saying is that Staley also is scrambling to fix TT’s previous mistakes in Lamp and Feeney lol? Sorry but your last paragraph is ridiculous.

Ah, reading comprehension! Do you see Staley's name in the last paragraph? I'm saying IF TT makes the right pick IE using the higher draftpicks on Olineman shouldn't guys like Lamp and Feeney, DJ Fluker all still be here instead of all of these high draft picks being busts, as opposed to drafting yet another OG in Zion which leaves a huge hole at OT! TT has a very bad track record with Olineman and LB's.

Staley is just the HC his job is to put the best player on the squad out there to start! Last year Staley had Strom Norton as his best RT, and he believed that was his best option at RT, and that again IE Norton may be the best option based on the inactivity in signing an OT. I am starting to believe that maybe the biggest reason we haven't got things on track has been our GM's logic and his drafting at key positions that needed better personnel

[Xenos]

Ah, reading comprehension! Do you see Staley's name in the last paragraph? I'm saying IF TT makes the right pick IE using the higher draftpicks on Olineman shouldn't guys like Lamp and Feeney, DJ Fluker all still be here instead of all of these high draft picks being busts, as opposed to drafting yet another OG in Zion which leaves a huge hole at OT! TT has a very bad track record with Olineman and LB's.

Staley is just the HC his job is to put the best player on the squad out there to start! Last year Staley had Strom Norton as his best RT, and he believed that was his best option at RT, and that again IE Norton may be the best option based on the inactivity in signing an OT. I am starting to believe that maybe the biggest reason we haven't got things on track has been our GM's logic and his drafting at key positions that needed better personnel

No, you’re completely misunderstanding what I’m saying. Staley was involved in the Zion pick. This isn’t TT trying to make up for past mistakes. That’s why your original statement was ridiculous. Staley said that he wanted the best OL, and not be forced to reach for an OT. A lot of our moves in FA and the draft has Staley’s fingerprints on it. If we decided not to go for OT in FA, then it’s on just as much on Staley for choosing to go that route.

[electricgold]

No, you’re completely misunderstanding what I’m saying. Staley was involved in the Zion pick. This isn’t TT trying to make up for past mistakes. That’s why your original statement was ridiculous. Staley said that he wanted the best OL, and not be forced to reach for an OT. A lot of our moves in FA and the draft has Staley’s fingerprints on it. If we decided not to go for OT in FA, then it’s on just as much on Staley for choosing to go that route.

Wrong! Staley had Zion ranked as the highest player on the board, and so did TT! But Staley is not the guy making the call or pick period. He's the HC. Staley is just projecting that he and TT were on the same page with the player and the pick. However IF Lamp and Feeney had the right stuff or even Fluker there would have been no need to pick Zion! Right now we have a great OT and maybe a great OG, We also have a solid center but other than that, we don't look so great. Rewatch the Raider game last year. Hopefully we get some great coaching and the rest of the Oline can become solid, but we are far from that today. IF you think Staley could come into his first HCing job, and after year 1 and no playoffs make the picks you are wrong. Staley did not walk up to TT and say pick Zion, and TT said OK... Its more than likely TT walked up to Staley and said we are picking Zion and Staley agreed that he thought he was the top player on the board.

[equivocation]

Wrong! Staley had Zion ranked as the highest player on the board, and so did TT! But Staley is not the guy making the call or pick period. He's the HC. Staley is just projecting that he and TT were on the same page with the player and the pick. However IF Lamp and Feeney had the right stuff or even Fluker there would have been no need to pick Zion! Right now we have a great OT and maybe a great OG, We also have a solid center but other than that, we don't look so great. Rewatch the Raider game last year. Hopefully we get some great coaching and the rest of the Oline can become solid, but we are far from that today. IF you think Staley could come into his first HCing job, and after year 1 and no playoffs make the picks you are wrong. Staley did not walk up to TT and say pick Zion, and TT said OK... Its more than likely TT walked up to Staley and said we are picking Zion and Staley agreed that he thought he was the top player on the board.

You really think the head coach doesn't have a say in who is picked? Maybe with Butler and AJ. Telesco is very much a "concensus builder" type manager.

[Xenos]

Wrong! Staley had Zion ranked as the highest player on the board, and so did TT! But Staley is not the guy making the call or pick period. He's the HC. Staley is just projecting that he and TT were on the same page with the player and the pick. However IF Lamp and Feeney had the right stuff or even Fluker there would have been no need to pick Zion! Right now we have a great OT and maybe a great OG, We also have a solid center but other than that, we don't look so great. Rewatch the Raider game last year. Hopefully we get some great coaching and the rest of the Oline can become solid, but we are far from that today. IF you think Staley could come into his first HCing job, and after year 1 and no playoffs make the picks you are wrong. Staley did not walk up to TT and say pick Zion, and TT said OK... Its more than likely TT walked up to Staley and said we are picking Zion and Staley agreed that he thought he was the top player on the board.

If you think Staley isn’t making the calls as well, then I got some beachfront property in Montana I think you’ll love to buy lol.

[Riverwalk]

I have no doubt the OL will be much better this year.

Spiller is lucky and whoever else from last years RB’s survive the cut.