Fire McCoy!

[Wheels]

They might as well have put "Interim" into his title. I really think they only retained him so he can occupy the space while they prepare for their move to LA.

[bonehead]

They might as well have put "Interim" into his title. I really think they only retained him so he can occupy the space while they prepare for their move to LA.

Agree with this, I'm not defending McCoy but how could the team hire anyone decent with no future plans set? A lot of these coaches have families.

[richpjr]

Agree with this, I'm not defending McCoy but how could the team hire anyone decent with no future plans set? A lot of these coaches have families.

They were discussing on the radio on how it will be hard to hire good assistant coaches with a HC with one year left on his contract.

[Mister Hoarse]

Good luck replacing assistants in this situation.

[Mister Hoarse]

They were discussing on the radio on how it will be hard to hire good assistant coaches with a HC with one year left on his contract.

Wat he said.

[homeless simpson]

They were discussing on the radio on how it will be hard to hire good assistant coaches with a HC with one year left on his contract.

the same could have been said about Marty's (would be) last year here, yet people were optimistic there wouldnt be much dropoff from 14-2...even when he chose Shelmon to be OC. Hard to extend a HC's contract when the HC will have completely new coordinators in place.

[Bolt-O]

J and D Spanos could do the behind the back stab by promising a potential OC with the first shot at being the HC when they ultimately fire McCoy. I'm thinking that they have Whisenhunt in mind for that. Remember all that talk about John Pagano deserving a shot at being an HC? It's tough to sell a 4-12 record, no matter whose fault, to a fan base that has a better record, and thus his only shot may be the Cleveland Browns, who are looking for a pliable, accepting and "progressive minded" HC as they start with the sabermetrics experiment in personnel decisions.

[Mister Hoarse]

#factoryofprogressivesadness

[Steve]

who would be the progressive minded analytics types? I keep hearing that Cleveland has a list of candidates for coaching that are basically traditional coaches. Is that going to help?

Plus the whole statistics to football relationship is dubious at best. The statistics that are really needed are not being collected, the box scores are basically useless for analytics. Plus, if you want to be really analytical, why use statistics? Breaking down film and using systematic study are similar the the deterministic methods used by scientists. Scientists (or at least I do) design studies with a problem in mind, then pick the tools to do the study that will be most revealing. The current paper I am writing for a conference next week doesn't have any statistics in it, and of all my colleagues, we all agree that a statistical analysis would not give anything useful about the event. You pick the tools to fit the problems you have, not find the tool and try to make the problems fit the tools. Hiring an analytic's guy first is probably the wrong way to approach the problem.

[Bolt-O]

who would be the progressive minded analytics types? I keep hearing that Cleveland has a list of candidates for coaching that are basically traditional coaches. Is that going to help?

Plus the whole statistics to football relationship is dubious at best. The statistics that are really needed are not being collected, the box scores are basically useless for analytics. Plus, if you want to be really analytical, why use statistics? Breaking down film and using systematic study are similar the the deterministic methods used by scientists. Scientists (or at least I do) design studies with a problem in mind, then pick the tools to do the study that will be most revealing. The current paper I am writing for a conference next week doesn't have any statistics in it, and of all my colleagues, we all agree that a statistical analysis would not give anything useful about the event. You pick the tools to fit the problems you have, not find the tool and try to make the problems fit the tools. Hiring an analytic's guy first is probably the wrong way to approach the problem.

I don't disagree, but that's what the Browns are doing. They hired a baseball stats guy for their Chief Strategy Officer, Paul DePodesta. Joe Banner and the Browns beat writer confirmed the coach requirement, even though they are interviewing the traditional coaches. They want someone who is willing to say "ok" when the front office makes a personnel move that wasn't vetted by the coaching staff.

[Mister Hoarse]

That's because NFL teams are toys.

[Formula 21]

You don't think top coaches are lining up to be a part of the MM tree?