The Elephant in the Room -- Injuries

[captaind]

The only question left, short of winning 4 of our last 5 games and squeaking into the playoffs is: will the team give TT and Staley an mulligan because of the insane amount of injuries we had this year? Most coaches get more than 2 seasons to turn around a team and it's not like the players have quit on Staley.

Not really a question. Foregone conclusion nothing will change next season.

[richpjr]

Not really a question. Foregone conclusion nothing will change next season.

I honestly think it is still not decided yet. If the team rolls over and quits, I think we clean house. If we somehow got hot and made the playoffs, both are back. If we end up around .500, which is the trajectory we are on, than I have no idea.

[richpjr]

Do go on....

I have seen that chart before. Do go on about what - how most often injuries are sheer bad luck in a violent sport?

[CanadianBoltFan]

The only question left, short of winning 4 of our last 5 games and squeaking into the playoffs is: will the team give TT and Staley an mulligan because of the insane amount of injuries we had this year? Most coaches get more than 2 seasons to turn around a team and it's not like the players have quit on Staley.

TT

10 years - 2 playoff appearances

When is enough ? Professional sports is a bottom line business.

[Bolt4Knob]

TT

10 years - 2 playoff appearances

When is enough ? Professional sports is a bottom line business.

Thats my bottom line. 10 years, two playoffs. ZERO divisions. Lack of identity on offense or defense. No speed. One of the slowest teams in the league

Telesco was gifted Rivers - didn't do a good job. He got Herbert -again, lack of depth. We all saw it this offseason at back up OT - we all wanted more depth than Storm Norton. Yet, Telesco did jack squat.

The WR room at the bye week was pretty dinged up - he did nothing

DTs lost - he did nothing but his the practice squad

[Boltgang74]

I have seen that chart before. Do go on about what - how most often injuries are sheer bad luck in a violent sport?

Disagree.Again there is an underlying reason festering with this badly managed team.

[Bolt4Knob]

Disagree.Again there is an underlying reason festering with this badly managed team.

Spanii

[CanadianBoltFan]

Thats my bottom line. 10 years, two playoffs. ZERO divisions. Lack of identity on offense or defense. No speed. One of the slowest teams in the league

Telesco was gifted Rivers - didn't do a good job. He got Herbert -again, lack of depth. We all saw it this offseason at back up OT - we all wanted more depth than Storm Norton. Yet, Telesco did jack squat.

The WR room at the bye week was pretty dinged up - he did nothing

DTs lost - he did nothing but his the practice squad

All good points.

It irritated me yesterday to see what Herbert endured every down yesterday while Carr had all day to throw and NO one laid a finger on him all game. Bosa has been gone since week 2 and yet the zero pass problem has not been addressed in the slightest. Ina critical game i have never seen less pressure on a QB ...11 weeks after Bosa went down. Unacceptable for a GM.

Theyi have a gifted young franchise QB and they are letting him down. Herbert is a great young man and never complains but at some point does his management team go to ownership and say if you want Herbert to commit to this franchise long term there needs to be a better plan and quickly?

[Bolt4Knob]

All good points.

It irritated me yesterday to see what Herbert endured every down yesterday while Carr had all day to throw and NO one laid a finger on him all game. Bosa has been gone since week 2 and yet the zero pass problem has not been addressed in the slightest. Ina critical game i have never seen less pressure on a QB ...11 weeks after Bosa went down. Unacceptable for a GM.

Theyi have a gifted young franchise QB and they are letting him down. Herbert is a great young man and never complains but at some point does his management team go to ownership and say if you want Herbert to commit to this franchise long term there needs to be a better plan and quickly?

Look at the players signed
Hightower was signed to the PS - he was never elevated. Cut him and bring in somebody else
Tuszka -the edge rusher - he has not shown much'

Telesco seems satisfied that he has replaced the bodies but the production he is getting is ZERO.
Why not just keep bringing in players. BAsham was released by the Cowboys - did they bring him in or call him

I get scheme fit and all that but come on - these replacements are not getting it done combined with horrific coaching

[QSmokey]

The ugly, ugly fact is that the loser, idiot bastards in charge of this team have no football knowledge and zero know how and will not step down or get out of the way. You always have to look up in any organization whether said group is successful or in this teams case pathetically underachieving to see why. The SpAnus group are horrible at talent evaluation and basically football in general yet still have decided to have their family spread like a cancer throughout most of the high positions of operation for this team. It sucks because unless they decide to go against their usual modus operandi and pay out of their own small pockets to hire a real GM and let said GM hire a respectable coaching staff nothing will ever change.We can debate coaches and players and GMs but it will always, always come down to this schmuck and his lame ass family making the wrong (cheap) decision. Puke.

Sadly, this is probably the most accurate description of why this team sucks, and will continue to suck. All this talk about hiring someone like Payton is just that: Fans talking. My gut feeling is that Staley and Co will be back for another year; Telesco, too. Hard as that is to admit - or believe. Injuries will be blamed this time around. Plus...Staley has 2 years left on his contract, and the Span-Asses have a history of not wanting to pay for a coach's salary if he's not coaching the team.

[ghost]

I have seen that chart before. Do go on about what - how most often injuries are sheer bad luck in a violent sport?

Same shit happened six years ago.

https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2017/1/28/14394998/injuries-stand-alone-fail-to-explain-the-chargers-2016-season

It's Telesco and John Spanos. They are the ONLY consistent with this team. The city, stadium, coaches, trainers, facility, practice field, have all changed.

[Riverwalk]

Same shit happened six years ago.

https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2017/1/28/14394998/injuries-stand-alone-fail-to-explain-the-chargers-2016-season

It's Telesco and John Spanos. They are the ONLY consistent with this team. The city, stadium, coaches, trainers, facility, practice field, have all changed.

Yes, more pointedly, it’s Spanos ownership with John controlling all the player or lack of decisions.

Here’s interesting facts about why owner wealth is a difference maker in terms of securing players.

“We hear it all the time in various contexts: “The Pegulas are rich. They can afford it.” In the NFL’s salary-cap era, everything is supposed to be equal. All teams are limited to the same spending on players. All teams receive equal shares of revenue from TV contracts, which offsets those player costs. So with all the rules to ensure parity, can an owner’s wealth, or lack thereof, still affect a franchise?

As Tom Mitchell mentioned in this article, there are rumors that the Khalil Mack trade was prompted in part by Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis being unable to afford the $34 million signing bonus necessary to secure a contract extension. While such a bonus is absorbed by five years worth of salary-cap money, it is an upfront payment in cash, made long before most of that offsetting revenue-sharing money will be received.

But there’s another rule in play. The NFL wasn’t always the juggernaut it is today. We all know the story about Ralph Wilson saving the Raiders franchise by loaning them money they needed to make payroll. This was the basis for a league rule that any money guaranteed to players must be set aside at the time the guarantee is made, to ensure such guarantees would be honored. While the league has become a multi-billion-dollar industry and rendered this concern obsolete, Article 26, Section 9 of the CBA remains in effect today. All guaranteed money, up to 75% of the contract’s total compensation, must immediately be placed in escrow, even when the money won’t be paid to the player for years. When the Minnesota Vikingssigned Kirk Cousins last year, he was paid a rather inconsequential $3 million signing bonus. However, since the entire $84 million contract was guaranteed, the team had to set aside more than $60 million cash to pre-fund the future guarantees.


Even the wealthiest of billionaires can struggle to have an extra nine-figures of cash laying around. This money has to be in the form of cash, not in Escalades or oil or Grand Slam breakfasts, or in shares of the team itself—where a lot of owners’ wealth was created and remains tied up. So in short, the answer is yes—despite the parity of a salary cap—a team owner’s wealth, and specifically liquid wealth, can play a big factor in what a franchise can offer its players.“

Now, how do you think the Spanos clan compares to the other billionaires in the league when it comes to liquid cash available to pre-fund these guarantees?